Why is this movie low rated?
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dwarol — 17 years ago(January 18, 2009 03:07 PM)
As somebody who has never read any of the Hellboy graphic novels or knew anything about the Hellboy universe, I found the characters and the relationships between them flat. It just seemed like a series of action scenes and some relatively dull interludes connecting them. And I'm getting tired of made-up universes with made-up villians that are ultimately just plot devices to challenge the heroes.
Also, while there was certainly nothing shabby about the special effects, there was nothing especially memorable about them either. But to be fair, I am beginning to feel that way about even the best special effects movies, such as Ironman and The Dark Knight. I know a huge amount of effort and detail goes into creating them, but other than a momentary rush when seeing them for the first time they just don't stick in my mind when I think about the movie. Because special effect scenes have gone so far beyond what is possible in the real universe, a part of my mind just rejects them when I see them. And there seems to be a boring sameness in all of them these days that just suggests a lack of creative vision at the highest level. Not all action involves slamming bigger and bigger objects together or more elaborately staged acrobatic sequences. -
arthurritus3000 — 17 years ago(March 24, 2009 11:24 PM)
"And I'm getting tired of made-up universes with made-up villians that are ultimately just plot devices to challenge the heroes."
I feel sorry for you then. Some of the best cinema comes out of 'made-up universes' and it's a pretty weird thing to get tired of. At the end of the day if you are tired of them why watch a film that has a bright red guy with horns on the front of it!
Onto your point on action, I think it's fair to say there aren't many films like Hellboy. I accept what your saying about Ironman and Dark Knight, but just lumping all comic book movies together is a mistake. Hellboy is quite unlike them in many ways.
That said, I think Hellboy is a good 7. I don't think it's majorly underated on IMDB and it's the sort of film that on the surface people who like crap like Transformers would want to see. When they do, it doesn't deliver the unintelligent tosh that there after and they score it down.
I think it shows more that enough people like it to drag it back up to nearly a seven!
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garbage_day1987 — 15 years ago(April 06, 2010 10:40 PM)
"What are you talking about?
The Dark Knight's only CGI was Batman jumping off the building"
you forgot about when the Helicopter crashed into the building. part of that scene was CGI as well. and i think parts of Two-Face's face was CGI such as the eyeball. -
WarpedRecord — 16 years ago(September 13, 2009 08:51 AM)
That's a very good synopsis of this film's weaknesses. It's not enough to provide impressive visuals if the story itself isn't compelling. I suspect someone who read the graphic novels would enjoy this film more because the gaps would be filled in, but I was anxious for this to end and probably won't remember it tomorrow. A decent diversion, but not a great film. 6 stars out of 10.
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rsc11560 — 17 years ago(January 24, 2009 03:44 PM)
People probably rated it low because they didn't really like it
Maybe the same people who thought hellboy 1 deserved a 5 are the same ones who gave pan's labyrinth a 10.
"Peter Jackson has neven been a fantasy director and certainly he doesnt have the intelligence to interpret Tolkien."
2 things about that ridiculous statement.- Peter Jackson has his experience with horror movies, but if your into cheesey old school special effects its really fantastic stuff. Del Torro is ALL about costumes and effects, I dont't really see huge change coming here Also the screenwriters are the ones who really made LOTR , and if the hobbit is any good, it will be for that reason as well.
- Interpret Tolkien? Did you read those books? There is little to be interpreted, unless your interested in how maybe Tolkien's Catholicism leaked into the stories. LOTR are not exactly some Albert Camus jumpoff, and The Hobbit even less so. (Not to say they aren't my favorite fantasy books). And if you mean interpret visually. Well as long as the Hobbit is at par with the LOTR movies I'd be happy.
Personally I like Jackson, Tolkien, and Del Toro- in case you think somehow I'm biased against the statement. Just think it's ridiculous.
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op12 — 17 years ago(January 25, 2009 02:03 PM)
On Rotten Tomatoes, this movie has an 89% by top critics, and the sequel has an 87%, so I think IMDB is skewed somehow. It's not often critics appreciate comic book movies, so such high ratings really say something about the quality of these movies.
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cheedo — 17 years ago(January 31, 2009 08:39 AM)
Because most people today have no refined or cool taste in movies.
I agree. Del Toro does terrific fantasy movies.
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FrozenLittleBaby — 17 years ago(February 04, 2009 01:09 PM)
It was an enjoyable movie, I gave it a seven but there where scenes I just thought where silly looking, which was down to the hell hound? flinging Hellboy across the windows in the subway station. Now I never read the Hellboy comics so all I know of Hellboy is from the film.
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Brian_McGee — 17 years ago(February 04, 2009 03:37 PM)
I think they did an awful job at the wirework in this movie. Worst example I remember was when hellboy was running down the bridge as it was collapsing under him. For a while he was just hovering over the bridge, spinning his legs Wile E. Coyote style. Also I wouldn't call 6.8 low rated.
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dolenraug — 17 years ago(March 23, 2009 10:08 PM)
Whoa whoa whoa. Hold up. I agree that Del Toro is an amazing fantasy director. In fact, he's one of my top 3 directors. But Jackson is an amazing fantasy director as well (he's my number 1 favorite director, thanks to his outstanding work on Lord of the Rings).
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sErpEnt_v — 17 years ago(March 31, 2009 09:28 AM)
I don't see why people (someone in this thread, but others too) refer to Hellboy as being an intelligent movie.
I thought it was heavy on the cliches, and had an overall "men in black-ish" feeling to it, which I found genuinely unattractive.
Once
Broom died
, what little interest I had for the characters vanished. The plot was mindless and boring for the most part, and that generally does not bode well for any movie.
I gave it a 5/10 because it wasn't a complete waste of time, but I will definitely not recommend it to friends.
What's funny is, like someone in this thread said, I too rated Pan's Labyrinth rather highly (I think I gave it an 8). In some ways I feel, this is indeed only half the movie that PL is. I can't quite put my finger on what makes the difference though.
I don't know, Butchie, instead.
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bing-57 — 16 years ago(May 03, 2009 10:29 PM)
Both Hellboys are brilliant fantasywise,
This movie was just too random to be enjoyable. Well, if you liked an endless series of explosions and fight scenes I guess it would be enjoyable.
But I tend to look for a plot in a movie. Honestly, I watched the movie last night and today I cannot even remember what the plot was.
I couldn't really relate or sympathize with any of the main characters and I really didn't care whether they lived or died.
And I kind of objected that every problem could be quickly solved by punching it.
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trescia-1 — 16 years ago(January 02, 2010 08:15 AM)
It's low rated because the film has some basic problems telling a story. It's confusing and there are holes in the logic so big that they bothered me, and I'm not the type of person who insists on logic in movies! The biggest issue is about the "Samael" monster. This creature reproduces in two ways it multiplies when you kill it AND it lays eggsand since much of the plot of the film revolves around Samael population control, this is just confusing and dumb. Del Toro may have been able explain it, but he chose to devote much of the film to huge, mindless fights between Hellboy and the monster (which comes back, double, when you kill itso killing it is counter-productive). Really, the second big Hellboy/Samael fight should have been cut and the time devoted to having the characters stand around and explain the plot. Not a good way to tell a story, I know, but better than nothing. I'm actually a fan of Hellboy and I liked this movie, but I'm a fan. I can understand why the rating is low. The storytelling is bad.
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shartmann — 16 years ago(January 05, 2010 02:37 PM)
Hellboy was ho-hum for me. I will say that I am not the intended target audience for this film - don't read comics and I don't get excited by special effects.
My problem with Hellboy is that is didn't hold my attention, and that is with multiple attempted viewings. As such I found the story tedious (if their was an intelligent plot I don't know what it was).
However, Lord of the Rings - loved it! Can't wait to see how Del Toro puts his influence into the Hobbit. Del Toro is certainly good a creating visually appealing films (for what that's worth), but should probably leave script writing to others (IMO).