a goof, yes??
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ghostfan — 13 years ago(September 06, 2012 06:19 PM)
found this on another thread makes sense to me!!!
by Craytonus_AP (Wed Jun 27 2012 00:46:06)
I think his memories weren't affected because not only does the Omega 13 reverse time 13 seconds, it has an effective RADIUS of 13 inches, which if you look at the scene, pretty much excludes everything in the universe with the exception of Jason's head , and thus his memories!
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Diplodocus55 — 13 years ago(March 08, 2013 06:13 AM)
Except there was a room full of people who heard him order it to be turned on. Plus, the captain was not the one to actually turn it on an underling did. So why would that underling not know what was going on?
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Mickyfinn — 13 years ago(March 08, 2013 06:28 AM)
Except there was a room full of people who heard him order it to be turned on.
But no one knew what it acutally did.
Plus, the captain was not the one to actually turn it on an underling did. So why would that underling not know what was going on?
Mathazar activated it, but Taggert actually pressed the button. Big difference.
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bps3013 — 11 years ago(October 12, 2014 01:38 AM)
I assumed that it was because he was the only one who knew that the Fred that came through the door was an imposter. Once Fred started shooting and revealed himself as Sarris, that's when the rest of the crew realized that something was wrong. Taggart had the jump on everyone because he saw it happen from the get go.
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Doc80 — 11 years ago(November 22, 2014 07:01 AM)
It's simple really, the person that actually presses the button to activate it isn't affected by the time jump. Otherwise, as someone else said, what's the point of using it. Without someone being able to remember, you would just be in an infinite loop.
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Technomage001 — 11 years ago(January 19, 2015 10:38 AM)
It could have an activation button in one location and a protective generator under the captains chair which means everything on the ship gets setback except for anyone in the captains chair, memory is unaffected.
Or if the ships computer controls the device once it's activated the computer can direct the omega 13 to effect everyone, but restore the captain or next highest ranking officer's memory if the captain isn't on the bridge.
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bradknopf — 11 years ago(March 28, 2015 11:15 AM)
Because if the Omega reversed time and all the actions of the person who pushed the button, then the Omega 13 could never really be activated, because pushing the button would mean the button never got pushed.
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CigarDoug — 10 years ago(January 14, 2016 09:34 AM)
Because if the Omega reversed time and all the actions of the person who pushed the button, then the Omega 13 could never really be activated, because pushing the button would mean the button never got pushed.
And collecting the energy of that paradox is what makes the Omega 13 work. It also answers the question of how the Thermians were able to create a device when the writers of the show couldn't decide what that device does.
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TakeTwoTheyreSmall — 9 years ago(August 09, 2016 08:27 AM)
It's not a paradox, and a paradox is not energy. A paradox is simply an unresolvable condition. The Omega 13 device would cause a continuous time-loop if some element were not present that would (in fact) break that loop, such as the person who activated it being able to act on previous knowledge. Nothing is left to chance, as chance is a condition of future, not past. Everything that did occur, will occur, and nothing can change that in a continuous time-line. History is unchangable, although the course of events can be experienced differently, but only at the time of the experience. This requires a condition to un-experience events for all but the control. 2 theories were mentioned. One being a "matter collapser, a bomb that would destroy everything (universe) in 13 seconds", and a "matter rearranger, affecting a 13 second time-jump to the past". Perhaps both theories are partially correct, in that, it does affect all matter (universe), and affects a 13 second time-jump to the past. I think the "13 seconds" is key, in that, it is enough time to affect a change in that time-line, but little enough time minimizing the possibility of a paradox. As it was, Nesmith experienced 13 seconds the rest of the matter in the universe did not. It's unclear if he would actually age, or simply retain the experiences. I don't believe the device simply "saved" one consciousness, inasmuch as it would shield consciousnesses within a proximity of the activation device, which was apparently very narrow. This could mean that anyone within the defined proximity would also preserve their experiences during the previous/original 13 seconds. Of course, none of this is within our understanding of the quantum realm. If we understood it, sci-fi would be no fun at all.
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