All strong criticizers of this movie are americans
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Defenseman13 — 15 years ago(February 21, 2011 04:01 PM)
Kick rocks, meatball.
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mojorecords — 15 years ago(July 23, 2010 01:04 PM)
How is that not racist?
It's not racist, just xenophobic. 'American' is not a race.
Seriously, I challenge anyone who doesn't know anything about this movie or Scientology to connect the two. That's one shining positive point about the movie: it really doesn't seem to have anything to do with it. Hell, I know a little about Scientology and I still don't know how the movie connects to it, other than that Hubbard wrote the story. The notion that people hate this movie because they hate Scientology is absurd. It's just an incredibly bad movie. -
movieboy_1 — 12 years ago(November 13, 2013 07:54 AM)
Exactly, I was thinking the same thing. Xenophobic is the correct term.
Anyway, I've seen a lot worse movies than this. If you can shut your brain off and not pick things apart in in while watching it's not that bad. But yes there are many glaring flaws fuel electric etc. I didn't know about the supposed Scientology connection. Side note: Scientolgoy is a bunch of crap.
My name's Pitt. And your ass ain't talkin' your way out of this beep -
theinquisitorx — 16 years ago(November 14, 2009 03:04 AM)
Come oooon.
First and foremost, scientology hasn't got a good reputation in Sweden either. The lack of critiscism only reflects the fact that Scientology is not as well known among the people in Sweden, since the Church of scientology at this point only has a limited amount of swedish followers. But those aware of the CoS is very well aware that it's a manipulative, destructive and aggressive sect calling itself a religion. But this is not a place for discussion neither sects or religious beliefs so, back to the movie.
Anyone can see that this is one of the worst movies ever made, considering the pretty decent budget and actors appearing in it. Not only americans. And that has nothing to with the fact that it might be influenced by some obscure scientologic beliefs. It's just a goddamn lame movie! Poor acting, poor dialogue and of course one of the worst manuscripts ever. Therefore I love it. It makes laugh just when i think of it! But if you think this is a good movie, you're welcome to think so. I can't. And I simply can't understand that anyone who has seen a decent number of films, which I presume anyone on IMDB has, can't see that this movie has all the ingredients a good film is NOT supposed to have.
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malkink — 16 years ago(November 19, 2009 09:19 AM)
I went to see this movie with my best friend because we really hoped to see a good sci-fi action movie. Not only that, we were hoping there'd be more sequels down the pike.
I squirmed through the whole production. I couldn't believe this had one of my favorite actors in it. I could give a rat's butt if he's Scientology - or his wife is. Or Tom Cruise (who of course, isn't in it) is. I watch their movies.
When we left the theater, there wasn't a soul in the parking lot who didn't think it was the worst thing they'd ever seen. I'm sure most of them had no idea it had any connection to Scientology.
I'm glad you've "lived in America". I was born here, and I don't see them as you do. I've dated Swedes, and I have my opinions as well, but I'd be perfectly idiotic to make a declaration of a whole nation based on a handful of people. My experience with Americans has been the opposite - they are far more likely to tolerate differences, just as they are free to express their sentiments about them. What I've experienced abroad is condescension and judgment.
The movie is awful on its own merits or lack of them, and time has borne this out. Even the actors themselves think it was bad.
I went back and read the (first) story, because I had a roommate in college who liked them. Not surprisingly, it wasn't any better. -
kingfan22001 — 16 years ago(November 30, 2009 06:46 AM)
I hated this movie long before I knew that it was even related to scientology.
I'm not saying that this is representative of all swedish people, but last time I was in Sweden I had 3 different people tell me 9/11 jokes. I don't judge all Swedish people and say that all Swedish people are insensitive a**holes.
The movie sucked plain and simple. It was no Seven Samurai, Godfather, or Plan 9 from Outerspace. -
PistolSmoke — 16 years ago(December 06, 2009 08:42 PM)
Come now, this movie sucks, I don't care what country you're from. And it's certainly got nothing to do (personally) with the Scientology aspect. Is Scientology the butt of many jokes in America? Certainly, if it were more prominent in other countries I'd be willing to bet it might be there too.
When I finally got around to seeing this movie a few months ago with a few friends, I knew that it was essentially supposed to be the Scientology gospel, but that doesn't make the movie any better or worse. The fact of the matter is that, even though I had a good enough time laughing along with my friends and making fun of a cheesy movie, I was just glad when it was over. It's a crappy movie. Bad acting, worse writing, poorly paced, overly long and just ultimately boring. There's really no argument that needs to be made here, watch the movie, it speaks for itself.
Have I seen worse movies? Yeah, probably. But have I ever seen a movie with this big a budget, and genuinely talented people involved in it, that was this bad? Maybe not.
And that's why this movie gets such a bad rap. I can forgive some garbage movie on the SciFi channel or something, because it has no budget, no big names attached to it, no expectations. This movie, on the other hand, really has no excuse for how bad it is. It had all the chance in the world but it failed epically.
So do people go a little overboard when declaring how terrible the movie really is? Yeah, honestly, probably. It won't melt your eyeballs out of their sockets or give you cancer. It's not the end of the world. But let's be frank, this movie has no business being called "good" in any capacity, by anybody, from any country or religious background.
"Not that bad" is all well and fine, but "good" is a bit of a stretch.Last Movies Seen:
Ninja Assassin: 5/10
New Moon: 3/10
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choadliqour — 16 years ago(December 18, 2009 05:25 PM)
Of course most of the criticism of this movie comes from the US Battlefield Earth only grossed $21,471,685 in the United States and Canada and a total of $8,250,000 worldwide. About 2/3 of the gross came from the US That means very few people outside the US even saw the film. I would suggest you read the Wikipedia entry for the movie you'll find the criticism of this movie was nearly unanimous. If the rest of the world is so enlightened and tolerant of other views why did the film do soooo horribly in worldwide box office? A little over $8 million divided by 2 billion or so people in the world that can afford to see a movie is sad!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battlefield_Earth_(film)
From the little I've read Scientology doesn't have a good reputation in most of the world. The top website that is critical of Scientology is Xenu.net and it is run out of Norway by a Norwegian citizen! Xenu.net contains critical information from around the world but most of it comes from the US because the CoS has the largest following there. Myself I've never really seen Battlefield Earth as a vehicle for Scientology doctrine I just think it was a really bad sci-fi movie that starred John Travolta.
Where did the caveman army get electricity to run their flight simulators for that matter where did they get fuel to power the Harrier jump jets? No fuel would last 1000 years of aging and neither would the hardware. How could a hand full of cavemen destroy the entire Psychlos race when the Psychlos destroyed the entire might of the Worlds armies in 9 minutes 1000 years before? This implausible movie sucked plain and simple. -
thejudge1964 — 15 years ago(July 22, 2010 09:49 PM)
NM Johnson, you're not racist for calling out the American media on it's bias against "Battlefield Earth" because of it's connection with L. Ron Hubbard. The movie was a solid entertainment that was unfairly maligned.
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tommy.skold — 15 years ago(August 03, 2010 09:07 AM)
As an avid reader of sci-fi I found the book to actually be quite good. Therefore my hopes where somewhat up before seeing this movie, and yes, I knew about the whole scientology angle before I either read the book or saw the movie but I didn't let that cloud my judgement on either the book or movie. The movie was unfortunately one of the worst movies Ive seen and as many other posters have stated here, I cringed at times. My pocket of the book has over a 1000 pages and I think it just couldn't be transfered to the screenformat successfully.
Oh, and Im from Sweden to, sorry
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repents69 — 15 years ago(August 16, 2010 08:17 PM)
Scientology doesn't have a good reputation ANYWHERE because a money-gobbling global scam.
However, this movie is unfailingly awful regardless of where it came from. I don't care if this movie came directly from the anus of the Almighty Himself. This movie is unbelievably bad and no amount of "Baaaaawwwww..you're just hating on ScientologyBaawwwww" comments will change that. -
katmandoo122 — 15 years ago(September 13, 2010 09:12 AM)
The movie gets horrible criticism because it is a horrible, horrible, horrible movie. Worst I've ever seen. It is the only movie that, after making it to the end, I asked for my money back (yes, I was one of the 6 people in the States to see the movie in the theater!!!!).
Puke! -
ColinChapman — 15 years ago(September 15, 2010 05:24 AM)
Ignore OP.
He is either a troll or a genuine fool.
NOBODY in the entire world likes this movie. Nobody. Why? Because it's unbelievably bad on so many levels.
I bet this is just somebody holding a grudge against mr. Johansson and has therefore intentionally used his name to create some hostility towards him.