And to a terrible Salvadorean prison?
-
Innocent User — 11 months ago(April 15, 2025 11:36 PM)
/.ㅤ said...
That video's source is Fox News, acknowledged as being horsepoo.
It shouldn't matter if it was Chinese TV, it's inside the White House with a room full of cabinet officials and journalists asking questions.
This post was sponsored by
ChatGPT
. Boiling the frog one prompt at a time. -
Corwin — 11 months ago(April 15, 2025 11:49 PM)
Innocent User said...
We are. You asked a question, I answered it.
Your previous post makes no sense. I made it clear I appreciate we have very different views on Trump.
I'm still wondering why you won't admit you made a mistake in buying the media narrative on the El Salvador issue though.
A good discussion requires honesty and integrity. You have refused to acknowledge the video, still. That's bad form, buddy. So, before you start accusing me of anything, why don't you do that?
Yech, I just watched the video. 6 minutes 47 seconds I will never get back.
It certainly laid out the position of the Trump administration: the guy's MS-13, he's Salvadorean, the President sets foreign (and immigration) policy, not the courts.
For me, it doesn't put to bed what are concerns about due process in this case or more broadly the role of the courts to check executive powers when mistakes, or even instances of overreach, are made. -
Innocent User — 11 months ago(April 16, 2025 12:23 AM)
Corwin said...
Yech, I just watched the video. 6 minutes 47 seconds I will never get back.
It certainly laid out the position of the Trump administration: the guy's MS-13, he's Salvadorean, the President sets foreign (and immigration) policy, not the courts.
For me, it doesn't put to bed what are concerns about due process in this case or more broadly the role of the courts to check executive powers when mistakes, or even instances of overreach, are made.
OK.
This post was sponsored by
ChatGPT
. Boiling the frog one prompt at a time. -
Corwin — 11 months ago(April 16, 2025 12:02 AM)
Innocent User said...
We are. You asked a question, I answered it.
Your previous post makes no sense. I made it clear I appreciate we have very different views on Trump.
I'm still wondering why you won't admit you made a mistake in buying the media narrative on the El Salvador issue though.
A good discussion requires honesty and integrity. You have refused to acknowledge the video, still. That's bad form, buddy. So, before you start accusing me of anything, why don't you do that?
My turn. The latest from the NYT. Looks like the Supreme Court ordered him returned:
A federal judge scolded the Trump administration on Tuesday for dragging its feet in complying with a Supreme Court order that directed the White House to “facilitate” the release of a Maryland man who was wrongly deported to a prison in El Salvador last month.
“To date nothing has been done,” the judge, Paula Xinis, told a lawyer for the Justice Department. “Nothing.”
The stern words came during a hearing in Federal District Court in Maryland, where Judge Xinis said that she intended to force Trump officials to answer questions — both in writing and in depositions — about what they had done so far to get the man, Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia, out of the prison.
Noting that every passing day was another that Mr. Abrego Garcia, a 29-year-old father of three, suffered harm in Salvadoran custody, the judge set up a fast schedule for officials to provide documents and sit for depositions.
“We’re going to move,” she said. “There will be no tolerance for gamesmanship or grandstanding.”
The hearing came only one day after President Trump said at an Oval Office news conference that he was powerless in seeking Mr. Abrego Garcia’s freedom. El Salvador’s president, Nayib Bukele, sitting beside Mr. Trump, said he had no intention of releasing the man.
The case of Mr. Abrego Garcia, a sheet metal worker the Trump administration accused of being a member of the violent street gang MS-13, has emerged in recent days as yet another flashpoint in Mr. Trump’s aggressive plans to deport immigrants the government has deemed to be criminals, even if there is little evidence to support its claims.
It has also become the latest test of the White House’s willingness to defy court orders and potentially shatter the traditional, but increasingly fragile, balance of power between the executive and judicial branches.
Three courts, including the Supreme Court, have now ruled that the White House is required to take at least some steps toward freeing Mr. Abrego Garcia from a notorious Salvadoran prison, known as CECOT, where he was sent with scores of other migrants on March 15 -
Innocent User — 11 months ago(April 16, 2025 12:23 AM)
Corwin said...
My turn. The latest from the NYT. Looks like the Supreme Court ordered him returned:
A federal judge scolded the Trump administration on Tuesday for dragging its feet in complying with a Supreme Court order that directed the White House to “facilitate” the release of a Maryland man who was wrongly deported to a prison in El Salvador last month.
“To date nothing has been done,” the judge, Paula Xinis, told a lawyer for the Justice Department. “Nothing.”
The stern words came during a hearing in Federal District Court in Maryland, where Judge Xinis said that she intended to force Trump officials to answer questions — both in writing and in depositions — about what they had done so far to get the man, Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia, out of the prison.
Noting that every passing day was another that Mr. Abrego Garcia, a 29-year-old father of three, suffered harm in Salvadoran custody, the judge set up a fast schedule for officials to provide documents and sit for depositions.
“We’re going to move,” she said. “There will be no tolerance for gamesmanship or grandstanding.”
The hearing came only one day after President Trump said at an Oval Office news conference that he was powerless in seeking Mr. Abrego Garcia’s freedom. El Salvador’s president, Nayib Bukele, sitting beside Mr. Trump, said he had no intention of releasing the man.
The case of Mr. Abrego Garcia, a sheet metal worker the Trump administration accused of being a member of the violent street gang MS-13, has emerged in recent days as yet another flashpoint in Mr. Trump’s aggressive plans to deport immigrants the government has deemed to be criminals, even if there is little evidence to support its claims.
It has also become the latest test of the White House’s willingness to defy court orders and potentially shatter the traditional, but increasingly fragile, balance of power between the executive and judicial branches.
Three courts, including the Supreme Court, have now ruled that the White House is required to take at least some steps toward freeing Mr. Abrego Garcia from a notorious Salvadoran prison, known as CECOT, where he was sent with scores of other migrants on March 15
expand
That's addressed in the video.
This post was sponsored by
ChatGPT
. Boiling the frog one prompt at a time. -
Innocent User — 11 months ago(April 16, 2025 12:28 AM)
BOOMSHIT said...
corwin seems to enjoy ignoring facts that are inconvenient for him
It's the route to leftism.
Shame to see him behaving like this.
This post was sponsored by
ChatGPT
. Boiling the frog one prompt at a time. -
Innocent User — 11 months ago(April 16, 2025 01:21 AM)
Corwin said...
Lol, addressed to who's satisfaction? The federal judge's? Clearly not. The SC's? Probably not.
It's addressed. I don't know what more to say.
This post was sponsored by
ChatGPT
. Boiling the frog one prompt at a time. -
BOOMSHIT — 11 months ago(April 16, 2025 01:22 AM)
Innocent User said...
It's addressed. I don't know what more to say.
I believe Corwin thinks an American federal judge can tell El Salvador what to do with its prisoners. that's why he appears confused.
jestergooning -
Innocent User — 11 months ago(April 16, 2025 01:25 AM)
BOOMSHIT said...
I believe Corwin thinks an American federal judge can tell El Salvador what to do with its prisoners. that's why he appears confused.
It feels like simple trolling, if I'm honest.
This post was sponsored by
ChatGPT
. Boiling the frog one prompt at a time. -
BOOMSHIT — 11 months ago(April 16, 2025 01:46 AM)
Corwin said...
Have they asked for him back?
Trump met with President Bukkake in order to facilitate the man's return but they are refusing to allow the US to bring him back. unless you're proposing the US government conduct a military operation and attack El Salvador?
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/el-salvador-nayib-bukele-meeting-trump-white-house/
jestergooning -
Corwin — 11 months ago(April 16, 2025 02:05 AM)
BOOMSHIT said...
Trump met with President Bukkake in order to facilitate the man's return but they are refusing to allow the US to bring him back. unless you're proposing the US government conduct a military operation and attack El Salvador?
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/el-salvador-nayib-bukele-meeting-trump-white-house/
No, of course not. Did they actually ask for him back? Why would they keep him, if the US asked for him?