Did the Will guy piss anyone else off?
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WelcomeToElmStreet — 20 years ago(February 27, 2006 03:25 PM)
Personally, when they showed him in the ritual room, i thought he kinda asked for what he got. He was standing there under 6 foot letters spelling WAR, he should've foreshadowed something!
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jccitizen001 — 20 years ago(February 28, 2006 09:07 AM)
Will gets no pity from me. I just watched this movie again. Like you guys said he had been doing research for several months before and he was getting a lot of job offers. He knew Lukes situation, being an orphan and needing money for Law school and he knew that the Skulls would pay for it. Instead of backing off for a friend he decides to keep digging to make himself famous. Think about it, anyone whos been to college knows your buddy doesnt get mad at you for staying out all night. He just acted like he was angry at Luke to try and get him to talk for his article. He missed his rowing practice cause he knew with this story he wouldnt have a problem getting a good job. All he had to do was give Caleb his stuff back, but in the end he cared more about his story to expose some basically harmless society over friendship and even his life.. Maybe Im a little messed up, I think he got what he deserved and I certainly would not have burned every bridge I had before I could even cross them. Its funny because in the end, no one went to jail. No one really paid for their crimes. Litten Mandrake may not be a Supreme Judge or whatever but hes still rich and Luke still has to find 45, 000 dollars to go to law school. Thats if he gets in which will be hard with a group of powerful men against him.
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Vins_gurl18 — 12 years ago(December 14, 2013 04:25 PM)
Yea,I don't think Will deserved to die, but his character was SO annoying to me and Idk why lol. He just seemed very passive-aggressive to me for some reason.
Maybe it was the way the character was written, or maybe it was the WAY in which the actor portrayed Will Beckford. Either way, I wish they had developed Will's character a little more to show that he really did have some redeeming qualities.
I don't think Luke would have been friends with Will for that long if he wasn't a cool guy. But I felt like we weren't shown much about him before Luke joins the Skulls. -
crh_2010 — 20 years ago(April 01, 2006 08:55 AM)
thats what the director wanted will to bethe guy who stands up for what he believes is wrong and people butchering him about itit always happens in the real worldwhenever someone acutally stands up for there beliefs and society views it as "different" or "fantasy land" but can sit there and believe in imaginary skinny santa clauses who will burn them to hell if they disobey them.very sad..but anyways, His race was also factor from what I read about skull and bones they are racist and only accept certain bloodlines in themI relate to both will and joshuah jackson's character because I see myself in both of themBut everyone hates will simply because he states the obvious to his friend and he was right all along..if its secret and elite, it cant be goodthese people were gonna ruin his life because he wanted to know why his friend was killed and who did it
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mxlflx — 19 years ago(June 28, 2006 01:33 AM)
What Will did was not journalism, it was an invasion. His motivation was not even righteous, he was driven by greed or a desire for fame. I am not murderous, nor a hooligan, but I would have at least beaten him to a pulp for his crime. He would have been expelled by the university and charged with a felony for breaking the Porsche window, at the least; he exercised terrible judgement. Free Masons pledge to die by the hands of their own brothers for betraying secrets. He would have been beaten within inches of his life by any fraternity on the planet, much less a prestigious secret society. Again, these guys make oaths to guard their secrets to the death. In the world, he might have been disappeared altogether if he had done the same thing to an NSA or CIA facility, so he had it coming to some extent. I cannot even empathize. Dig a deep enough hole and it could be your own grave.
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PotassiumMan — 19 years ago(March 04, 2007 06:40 PM)
Will Beckford was the least likable character in entire film. The sad thing is, the movie revolves around him getting knocked off. That's what killed the movie- that the victim of the crime was unsympathetic. As most people on this thread seem to agree, in some ways, Will and not Caleb was the bad guy, for trying to steal from a secret society. If I had any power over the situation, I wouldn't lift a finger for him. It was his own career-driven motives that led him to disrespect a university tradition.
You don't have to be part of a secret or elite society to understand it as tradition. That's what it was and a self-centered worm like Will Beckford couldn't view it as a tradition. He only viewed it as something that he couldn't be a part of. -
riverat627 — 15 years ago(December 18, 2010 07:31 AM)
the reasons he got mad at luke were total BS as well, he acted like he was mad for luke not telling him what had happened but it was really for the sake of writing a story, thats not a friend, and I think it was honorable to get satisfaction for what happened to Will but as the other people said he kind of brought it on himself
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amazonprince71 — 12 years ago(December 15, 2013 07:40 AM)
I agree with everything Potassiumman said.
The movies biggest flaw is the lack of sympathy the audience has for the Will character.
He pretty much spies on his best friend from the beginning of the movie and has a major falling out/fight with him after less than 30 seconds of Luke having his initiation as as Skull.
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fiatlux-1 — 11 years ago(July 19, 2014 10:23 AM)
One other thing that creeped me out about Will was he didn't act like Lucas's friend as much as he did like his girlfriend!
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rena165129 — 11 years ago(December 19, 2014 09:39 AM)
oh yeah, Will was not liked by me at all. He was a real jerk, like he was jealous of Luke for getting into the Skulls, and having friends other than him and Chloe.
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