Ginger or Bridget?
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freeist — 15 years ago(February 01, 2011 03:23 PM)
Mainly, I think they had different makeup artist with a different approach. I also think that since Unleashed was pretty dull (my opinion), the main part of the horror had to be derived from Brigitte's gradual transformation, since, unlike Ginger, she wasn't going to be murdering anybody, but just tempted to.
Second, just for box office reasons, they weren't going to make Katharine Isabelle look uglier, except maybe right at the very end, while in Unleashed they calculated that Emily Perkins wasn't going to get people to watch it on her looks alone. Whereas with Katharine Isabelle, people would look at it due to her looks alone. Not saying they would like it, but more would have looked.
Not that Perkins looks bad. No, she's pretty, but she's not dazzling. Isabelle can dazzle you. -
ricky_may1 — 15 years ago(February 03, 2011 11:23 AM)
you make a great point. Katherine Isabelle was only ugly during the final transformation in the back of Sam's van (why was it called a truck? that really annoyed me) Also in the sequel Bridget did not really kill anyone i don't think (although she caused the death of Tyler accidently). Neither Bridget nor Ginger were villains; both just were undergoing the transformation into werewolves. Trina, Tyler and Ghost were the real villains. Tyler's sexual ways ended up coming back to bite him (literally) Trina was a bitch and Ghost was disturbed but manipulative (and she killed Alice)
Also, i disagree the sequel was dull. i thought it was just as good as the original (not as good but still worthy) the dull one to me was Ginger Snaps Back.
Finally wouldnt it be neat if they made another film called "Bridget Snaps?" -
freeist — 15 years ago(February 03, 2011 10:03 PM)
Unleashed had its moments. In fact, Emily Perkins' performance in it is amazing. I actually saw part of it before I knew about Ginger Snaps, and it's what got my attention. She carried the entire first half of the movie. After seeing GS1 I went back and watched UL and did not like it. I don't want to tell you why unless you want me to. I don't like to spoil anybody else's enjoyment.
Brigitte killed Tyler, but I was stunned that she didn't kill him an hour earlier in the film.
They called it a truck because in the shooting script,
it was a truck.
I mean, a six or eight wheeler at least. In the scene where they were smoking pot, Brigitte was supposed to have been in there, too! (Not smoking, BTW, just there with Ginger.) And if you think about the way the Beast of Bailey Downs buys it, it makes a lot more sense if it were a truck. (That was also supposed to have happened on a highway, not a suburban street). Why did it turn into a van? Budget. GS had incredible problems getting funded.
Actually, I have to disagree with you. Ginger
was
the villain, the antagonist, in Ginger Snaps, but she's a classically tragic character, too. At the beginning, she's grooming Brigitte to commit suicide with her. That was probably the whole point of doing the slide show with her.
At the end Brigitte says "I'm not dying in this room with you!" Now, why would she say ". . . in this room
with you
?" You would think "I'm not dying" would be the only important point? So, why did Brigitte say it like that?
Brigitte was rejecting the suicide pact. -
ricky_may1 — 15 years ago(February 04, 2011 07:46 AM)
Yeah Ginger was a villain but she was like you said a "tragic villain". Also, i don't think Bridget really wanted to commit suicide; she is like skeptical throughout the entire first movie, basically she had never had an opportunity to think for herself and basically did whatever her sister wanted (i.e. the smoking scene Bridget initially refused the cigarette until Ginger forced it on her) So actually as blunt as this may seem Ginger getting bit by the wolf was a blessing in disguise because it gave Bridget a chance to become stronger and think more for herself (become a leader rather then a follower you might say). And, to be perfectly honest, if my sister was like Ginger and she died, i would not miss her. (which was the only thing about the sequel that surprised me; When Ghost asks if she misses her, Bridget says "all the time.")
I had 2 major problems with the sequel: First, that Alice dies; she was like my favorite character in the film aside from Bridget and i wanted her to live. i was pissed when Ghost killed her. Second, Ghost lives and gets away with pretty much everything she does.
On the plus side, she doesn't kill Bridget so it shows she is somewhat compassionate, albeit putting Bridget out of her misery would have been the "right" thing to do. Ghost is definitely one of the screens most epic villains; smart, cunning and manipulative. i would compare her to Iago from "Othello" -
freeist — 15 years ago(February 04, 2011 12:49 PM)
Yes, you're right that Brigitte's skeptical. In fact, at the beginning, she only reluctantly clasps Ginger's hand. She points out, "When we were eight?" as in "Ginger, why do we have to take this so seriously." Then when she clasps, she adds, "United against life as we know it." I'll bet that's not in the original oath, but Brigitte agrees with the devotion. In fact, she has much more mature idea of what devotion is than Ginger. She just lacks the confidence to clash with her sister on it directly.
Ginger had some good qualities, unfortunately, you don't get to see them too much before she's infected. She takes her responsibility to her sister seriously, for one thing. She wasn't going to let Trina get away with putting Brigitte's face in dog entrails. She also seemed to respect Brigitte. I mean, she might give her the finger, but Brigitte had no problem expressing her opinions to Ginger. -
ricky_may1 — 15 years ago(February 04, 2011 08:48 PM)
thats what i always thought. I think we are led to believe that he is killed. Also, it may be wrong to think it but even though she was bitch, Trina was still really hot! What is your opinion on Sam and Bridget dating? i always thought they made a great pair
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freeist — 15 years ago(February 05, 2011 07:14 AM)
Yes, except the movie gives this a disturbing twist: Sam is supposed to be in his early 20s. At the least, he's 18 or 19. Now, the fact is, the age of consent in Canada at the time was 14, but there's really a good, human reason why Ginger reacted the way she did to Brigitte seeing Sam. ("She's only 15!")
If Sam had lived, I can see Brigitte getting an overwhelming crush on him, but at its best, it would have been a sad story of unrequited love, for at least a few years. At its worst, it would have been, uncomfortable.
Trina, yes, of course, she was the popular girl at school. So, yes, she was hot. -
ricky_may1 — 15 years ago(February 05, 2011 10:15 AM)
Makes sense but it would kinda be like Edward and Bella ya know? cept that Sam is not a vampire (boy that would be funny!)
I have heard from some people that Sam is in fact the werewolf that chases Bridget in the sequel and he was only liked severely mauled but lived in the first. i find that difficult to believe considering we all saw Sam like get ripped to pieces in the last 10 minutes of the film, and no human could live through that kinda thrashing (plus his windpipe got crushed so no way was he still living in my opinion.) if it was a less severe mauling i would find likely but not from what the film shows.
By the way , Did Trina even have the slightest clue that Sam was totally not into her. I mean you would think she would have gotten the hint sooner or later right?
also, when Trina was talking about cherry hounds and virgins, she WAS referring to Sam right? i mean she was off the dog topic? -
freeist — 15 years ago(February 05, 2011 09:11 PM)
Sam? Actually, no. That was Jason. Think about it. It makes the most sense. He's still infected at the end. He's not dead. He doesn't have monkshood. When ghost came up with her tale on where that werewolf came from, Brigitte said back, "No, actually from suburbia." How did she know that? She knows exactly who it is.
Now, something else unseen: did Brigitte try to help Jason, and then it fell apart when he couldn't take "the cure" after say, several months? Did he find her and ask he about "the cure" and is that where she realized it wasn't a cure but a "daily treatment?" Might they have traveled together for a while? There's a whole back story to that.
I think for Trina, Sam might have been something she never faced before: a guy who was absolutely uninterested in her. She simply could not believe it, and thought, at the beginning of the movie, that she just had to try harder. Guys make this mistake all the time, in fact, Jeremy makes that very mistake in Unleashed with Brigitte. I think she painfully would have come to the realization, of course, but with a lot of drama.
Yes, she was referring to Sam when she said he's a Cherry Hound. I think the dog might have been symbolic in that scene, but actually they had to rewrite for the lower budget. In the 1998 script, Trina has the dog in that scene. The dialog is mostly the same, except she was waiting for Brigitte to arrive, and she sics the dog on her!
But Ginger runs out of the house, intercepts the dog, breaks its neck, splits it open, tosses it aside, nabs Trina and drags her in, telling Brigitte to hide the carcass. Brigitte does. In other words, in that scene, Ginger is acting to defend Brigitte's life. If they had some more money, that's the scene they would have made.
But I digress. She was trying to smear Sam to Brigitte.
You might want to read my GS fan fic novel, BTW:
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5709622/1/Ginger_Snaps_The_Feral_Bond
It covers some things in the back story. -
cadenbt — 12 years ago(December 28, 2013 06:11 AM)
Ginger has the more obvious sex appeal. She has the baby face, blue eyes, bigger boobs, and dresses in less layers. However, I've always felt more attracted to Brigitte. Her eyes are so intense and it amazes me what she does with them in this film. She also has large, luscious lips. And I would say that baby face really only looks good when you're young. It works against you when you start getting towards middle-age.