Pam was horrible!
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chaitanya_ch — 17 years ago(October 22, 2008 05:29 AM)
Pam didn't even give a second thought about why he did the things he did. When she found out the test scores she calls him says she was sorry. Even in real life someone in that place would get on a plane to Chicago. She doesn't give any indication that she should have supported him.
After all this, I am surprised Greg decided to marry her after Jack (de Nero) did the lie detector thing towards the end. The situation didn't give any indication that Pam stands behind him.
While proposing he says that they got through the last 48 hours. Did they really?
Why would he want to marry someone like that?
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asdfgsdfgsdg — 17 years ago(February 01, 2009 11:20 PM)
neither would I.
I think the ending was a great disappointment. Greg should have just left and leave Pam to be single and her stupid father miserable forever.
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joliet_jane — 16 years ago(July 21, 2009 10:12 PM)
Here's your problem: some folks living the in the stone age, both male and female, think that a woman is a thing to be wooed, not a partner or an equal that one should cooperate with. She's an object, not as person, as written.
For goodness sake, he's got to ASK HER DADDY if it's okay for him to ask her to marry him! A lot of people accept it, but I think it's bullcrap. She is also under Daddy's protection, and doesn't seem to much care about her own independence.
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DCI77 — 10 years ago(September 14, 2015 06:50 PM)
For goodness sake, he's got to ASK HER DADDY if it's okay for him to ask her to marry him! A lot of people accept it, but I think it's bullcrap.
Why do you consider it bullcrap?
I don't necessarily see any issue with this. It's not being stuck in the stone age or treating, or seeing, the woman as a thing to be wooed. Wooing is just one aspect of intimate, serious relationships. Also, I and many of my girlfriends like to be wooed. It's not to say we're clingy or have no self-esteem.
In reflection, you're way out of touch with reality, ironically.
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angel_gaze — 10 years ago(February 21, 2016 04:51 AM)
Exactly! And she should have gone in and picked out the clothes for him since Denny was a douche and purposely lent a 30-something-year-old grown man sloppy, baggy, hip-hop clothes, while he himself was wearing a nice sweater and perfectly fit jeans.
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angel_gaze — 10 years ago(February 21, 2016 04:51 PM)
Exactly! And she should have gone in and picked out the clothes for him since Denny was a douche and purposely lent a 30-something-year-old grown man sloppy, baggy, hip-hop clothes, while he himself was wearing a nice sweater and perfectly fit jeans.
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ryansassy1 — 15 years ago(November 30, 2010 06:27 PM)
I was going to post a rant thread about Pam just before seeing this thread.
Pam was supposed to be this ultimately desirable girl-next-door type, but I thought she was merely daddy's pawn. Now that's a dysfunctional relationship. I pity Greg, that he's engaged to somebody like that. He should have broken it off as soon as it became clear that she just believed what her father told her about Greg without even questioning it. -
quball87 — 15 years ago(December 30, 2010 11:40 AM)
LOL at this post.
Yes if this was real life, Greg would have at least started an argument with Pam about how she NEVER BACKED HIM UP!
I don't care about how much a guy supposedly loves his fiance, no one takes that much crap and doesn't bring it up to his woman that she didn't defend him. -
americanadian25 — 15 years ago(February 17, 2011 02:18 PM)
Yeah Pam kinda sucked in the movie. The whole scene about Denny's clothes and her not waking him up for breakfast would be a really lame thing for someone to do. I would have gotten out of there in heartbeat.
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Heidi_Smiles — 12 years ago(September 22, 2013 12:49 PM)
I totally agree, but I think we were supposed to understand that all relationships have moments where one person just doesn't empathize with the other as they should. With the breakfast thing and Denny's clothes, she just clearly didn't see what the big deal was. "It's just my family, it's just PJs. Everyone loves Greg, why should he care?" That kind of thing.
When she sent him out to the drugstore with Jack, she just saw it as an opportunity for them to talk. That's it. It's her dad; she didn't think it should be awkward.
With the switcharoo on the cat, she saw that as a huge betrayal of trust that caused her to momentarily doubt some other things. I think that's understandable to an extent.
Pobre de Dios que no sale en revistas, que no es modelo ni artista, o de familia royal -
preachcaleb — 3 years ago(May 04, 2022 02:54 PM)
Yeah, the more I watch it, the more I blame Pam for a lot of what happens to Greg.
She shouldn't have made Greg lie to her father about them living together. She set him off to a bad beginning. She should've been honest with her parents. She's a grown up, not a 17 year old child.
The one that really gets me is when she tells Greg to go wake up her brother and ask for some clothes. Umm, that is your brother. You go up and ask him for clothes.
So many stories, so little time.