Lecter's appearance
-
Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Hannibal
Hungerhill — 9 years ago(September 17, 2016 11:15 AM)
The book has Hannibal Lecter undergoing some minor plastic surgery with collagen implants and some change of appearance with glasses and hair. The appearance of Anthony Hopkins in the movie is the spitting image of Hannibal the Cannibal..as a famous serial killer he would be recognisable to anyone vaguely familiar with the case so very unrealistic.
-
gottaluvafriend — 9 years ago(October 01, 2016 09:59 AM)
Would-be movie critics often don't understand what matters in a movie and what doesn't, what maintains the suspension of disbelief and what fails to, and unfortunately don't really care. In terms of
Hannibal
's believability, your point is lost. -
gottaluvafriend — 9 years ago(October 01, 2016 10:28 AM)
How? I explained why I was posting what I was. Movies are about the suspension of disbelief. Most moviegoers don't know that the novel even exists. What I like about you is that you read the novel. (I did, too.) The thing about making a movie based on a preexisting story is that changes are absolutely inevitable when reducing 400 pages to 40.
No offense. I'm often blunt and rude. -
try_and_stop_me — 9 years ago(October 26, 2016 08:13 PM)
Holy crap this is the most refreshing and succinct exchange I've ever seen on IMDb. Well done, you two. And thanks for the question and input. Enlightening and, as previously stated, refreshing to see such a discussion that both informs and reminds us that it is okay to not always have the same POV. Cheers to you both!
(Apologies if this is overkill. I hardly post but see so much absurd nonsense on here.) -
preachcaleb — 9 years ago(November 01, 2016 09:22 AM)
The appearance of Anthony Hopkins in the movie is the spitting image of Hannibal the Cannibal
Well, the movie did need to sell and market him as people know him. It was important to have Anthony Hopkins up there looking as Hannibal looks.
as a famous serial killer he would be recognisable to anyone vaguely familiar with the case so very unrealistic.
That's why he left the country.
Also, without looking it up, who is American's most famous escaped prisoner right now and what does he look like?
Seize the moment, 'cause tomorrow you might be dead. -
simonwilliams555 — 9 years ago(January 24, 2017 11:38 AM)
Hannibal would be as famous a killer as say , Manson, now if you saw Charlie out in the open having a conversation with you , would you not recognise him because he was wearing a hat?
I thought the film was ok, but anyone who thinks it's not ridiculous that the police officer in the film didn't recognise Hannibal the first time he met him , then that's pretty silly.
That's more suspending your disbelief in the context of watching a film, that only works given the context of the universe in which the film is set, this is based in a realistic setting off the back of silence of the lambs and it goes a bit ridiculous in places.
Though i enjoyed the film, it's definitely massively inferior compared to the original or even red dragon. -
preachcaleb — 9 years ago(January 24, 2017 11:55 AM)
Manson has had decades in the public eye. Videos and pictures plastered all over. And even then, who says someone in Italy would recognize him? I certainly wouldn't know a famous Italian serial killer.
Hannibal was in hiding for several years. And no, it's not ridiculous that the police didn't recognize him. Do you think the average policeman in the United States would recognize another country's most wanted criminal? Heck, most wouldn't recognize this country's most wanted criminal.
Like I said: without looking it up, name and describe someone on the FBI's top 10 most wanted.
Seize the moment, 'cause tomorrow you might be dead. -
simonwilliams555 — 9 years ago(January 24, 2017 12:12 PM)
Hannibal would have been in the papers and received the same amount of press coverage as someone like Charles Manson, Richard Ramirez, he is that recognisable, a serial killer receives an enormous amount of press coverage the amount at the time of their arrest and before they're caught.
When someone like him is captured it becomes not just national news but global news and a police officer would certainly be aware of who he is, he'd wouldn't necessarily know that he'd be on the FBI most wanted list, i said that he'd recognise him, which he would. -
preachcaleb — 9 years ago(January 24, 2017 12:18 PM)
I said he wouldn't. Again, most cops aren't fully aware of another country's criminals.
Most United States police wouldn't even recognize El Chapo.
Hannibal escaped right before the era of instant social media news. His picture would not make it all the way to Italy. So while now a days, someone like Hannibal would be all over the world, back in 2001, he wasn't.
Again, without looking it up, who is Italy's most famous killer right now?
Seize the moment, 'cause tomorrow you might be dead. -
simonwilliams555 — 9 years ago(January 24, 2017 01:30 PM)
..i'm pretty sure word got around pretty fast without the internet and globally as well, like i said Hannibal's arrest would have been on the same scale as Charles Manson's, Manson was arrested in the late 60's , long before the internet, i'm pretty sure if he escaped people would still recognise him from the paper because of his notoriety.
Lector is on the same level of notoriety.
You're asking me the same question, i don't know who's the most famous serial killer in Italy right now, i'm going to assume there isn't one, at least one that's generated any kind of media attention , there certainly hasn't been a murder in Italy that's been national news since say Amanda Knox..and I would be able to identify her out of a line up of people though she's innocent but that's another conversation, i'm only using her as an example because it was a murder that generated a lot of attention in a foreign country.
Not every murder has the same amount of press coverage but a cannibal, that would sell papers, his face would be on every newspaper in the western world for weeks, first his arrest would be covered then his escape. -
preachcaleb — 9 years ago(January 24, 2017 01:41 PM)
Except we saw that no, information did not get around quickly. Lecter was able to travel first to Africa (I believe) then to Italy.
Amanda Knox happened in 2007, after the age of social media. Lecter's escape was before that. He wasn't every where. Certainly not in Italy. There'd be no reason for police there to know his face, just as there's no reason for police here to be familiar with Italian criminals.
His face would be in American papers, but not European ones.
Seize the moment, 'cause tomorrow you might be dead.