Music: Bebop
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Zanza8 — 13 years ago(August 18, 2012 01:21 PM)
Trigun. I love Bebop, but Vash touched my heart.
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i-jackie — 13 years ago(March 06, 2013 05:00 AM)
I agree with your comparison, although for me Vash is definite win against Spike. But I guess, I just like idealists ;).
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sawfan1414 — 12 years ago(July 15, 2013 03:58 AM)
Adding an extra category
Music: Bebop by FAR, not even close here.
Animation: Bebop. Trigun had good character designs, but other than that, it's aged pretty hard. Bebop still looks pretty slick.
Style: Bebop.
Writing: Bebop. Again, BY FAR.
Story: Tie. I genuinely loved both stories.
Spike Spiegel vs. Vash the Stampede: Spike. But i do love Vash.
Jet Black vs. Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Wolfwood.
Faye Valentine vs. Meryl Styfer: Faye
Ed vs. Millie: eh.
Vicious vs. Legato: Legato. There is no reason for it to be Vicious vs Knives, Knives was in 2 episodes, Legato was the major villain of Trigun.
Rem Savern vs. Julia: Julia.
Knocking on Heaven's Door vs Badlands Rumble: Knockin on Heaven's Door.
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MrsSpooky — 12 years ago(July 17, 2013 09:00 PM)
Vicious vs. Legato: Legato. There is no reason for it to be Vicious vs Knives, Knives was in 2 episodes, Legato was the major villain of Trigun.
Actually, I think Vicious and Knives had a fairly close correlation. Vicious appeared in more episodes of Bebop than Knives did in Trigun, but he was mentioned in quite a few, and actually turned out to be the catalyst of all the horrors that were visited upon Vash. Plus their showdown at the end I thought paralleled the clash between Spike and Vicious in Bebop.
Vicious would win that particular competition over Knives, but Knives did remind me of Vicious.
Three two one Tiger & Bunny Over and Out.
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MrsSpooky — 12 years ago(July 18, 2013 07:57 AM)
Vicious vs. Legato: Legato. There is no reason for it to be Vicious vs Knives, Knives was in 2 episodes, Legato was the major villain of Trigun.
Actually, I think Vicious and Knives had a fairly close correlation. Vicious appeared in more episodes of Bebop than Knives did in Trigun, but he was mentioned in quite a few, and actually turned out to be the catalyst of all the horrors that were visited upon Vash. Plus their showdown at the end I thought paralleled the clash between Spike and Vicious in Bebop.
Vicious would win that particular competition over Knives, but Knives did remind me of Vicious.
Three two one Tiger & Bunny Over and Out.
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ScottMerica — 11 years ago(January 08, 2015 05:19 PM)
Music: Bebop
Animation: Bebop
Style: Bebop
Writing: Bebop
Story: Trigun
Spike vs Vash: Tie
Jet vs Wolfwood: Wolfwood
Fay vs Meryl: Faye
Ed vs Milly: Ed
Vicious vs Knives: Tie
Julia vs. Rem: Rem
Pierrot le Fou vs Legato: Legato
Ein vs Kuroneko sama: Ein
Cowboy Bebop: 9
Trigun: 6
Trigun is a lot of fun with moments of excellence, but suffers a bit from some pacing issues. Cowboy Bebop is just great all around and never bored me
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super-staff — 10 years ago(May 18, 2015 09:05 AM)
Music: Cowboy Bebop
Animation: Cowboy Bebop
Style: Cowboy Bebop
Writing: Cowboy Bebop
Story: Cowboy Bebop
Spike Spiegel vs. Vash The Stampede: Tough one, but I might have to go withSpike Spiegel.
Jet Black vs. Nicholas D. Wolfwood: Jet Black, but Wolfwood's an extremely close second
Faye Valentine vs. Meryl Stryfe: Faye Valentine (hated Meryl, so no contest there)
Ed vs. Milly Thompson: Milly Thompson
Vicious vs. Knives: Vicious
Julia vs. Rem Saverem: Rem Saverem
End Count
Cowboy Bebop: 9
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anon17 — 10 years ago(July 20, 2015 07:00 PM)
i dunno, they seem too different to compare this way, on 1 hand we have the most stylized, if not most western influenced anime that stands as a series and on individual sessions.
on the other, you have a really cool setting and awesomely cool characters in a great story, bringing the best traditional anime IMO.
I love both, but truthfully, I watched a lot of anime to give it a shot, even episodes of trigun and cowboy bebop. It wasn't until i watched Pierrot le Fou that i got hooked.
i can watch any episode of bebop at any given time, but if i wanted to binge watch one, it'd be trigun.
Music: Cowboy Bebop
Animation: Cowboy Bebop
Style: Cowboy Bebop
Writing: Cowboy Bebop (trigun has a little too much typical anime cheese)
Story: Trigun
Spike Spiegel vs. Vash The Stampede: other than being the main characters and total bad-asses, they are totally different, apples and oranges. one is an anti-hero who gets sh*t done, the other is stereotypical hero archetype
Jet Black vs. Nicholas D. Wolfwood: same as above, you got one patriarchal captain/former lawman vs a reluctant hero with total mystery
Faye Valentine vs. Meryl Stryfe: Faye Valentine but again, totally different characters
Ed vs. Milly Thompson: Ed, personalities i can see, milly had more surprises, only because you knew from the getgo what Ed was capable of
Vicious vs. Knives: Vicious, knives is a cooler threat, but little too one-dimensional.. not to say vicious wasn't, but they left enough mystery in him
Julia vs. Rem Saverem: Rem Saverem -
itsment2be — 10 years ago(February 05, 2016 12:43 PM)
I'm utterly baffled why people give this anime so much hype.
There are plenty of characters who don't kill. Batman, Superman, Kenshin, etc. They remain loveable characters because there's a prison/jail system in place, with laws and consequences for committing crimes.
In Trigun, Vash doesn't hold these criminals responsible for the crimes they commit. He just tells them to "run along".
So they can kill, rape, and destroy property on another day, as long as it's not under his watch.
This is so unbelievably stupid, that I can't even recommend this anime to kids. It is universally insulting to the intelligence of all human beings regardless of age. If I watch this with a little kid, eventually at the end of the episode the kid will ask me why Vash doesn't put the bad guys in jail. And I won't have an answer other than:
Vash has an extremely immature view of right and wrong. Actually it's beyond immature. His moral compass has been damaged by childhood trauma. His childhood scars won't allow him to accept the simple fact that letting a murderer(who continually kills) live free is infinitely more evil than killing the murderer. His childhood scars won't allow him to comprehend how selfish he truly is, and how he kills more people indirectly, when he saves serial murderers.
It's almost like when Knives killed the spider and Vash became angry. Knives actually saved much more butterflies in the long run, because the spider won't kill any more butterflies in the future.
Vash would rather save both the spider and 1 butterfly, which will eventually result in much more dead butterflies in the future since the spider is still alive.
Vash would have to imprison the spider and feed it some kind of high protein plant based substitute for the rest of the spider's life. Either that or follow the spider for the rest of it's life and continually save butterflies until the spider starves to death.
Since Vash isn't willing to do any of the basic things necessary to ensure human public safety (Such as when he allowed Gasback to walkaway from a bank heist in the movie "Trigun Badlands Rumble", then obviously he's ok with the spider killing many future butterflies as long as he doesn't have to bear witness to it.
You can't compare Vash to batman just because they both don't kill. Joker breaks out of maximum security prisons. But at least Batman tried his best to ensure public safety. Vash allows serial murderers to walk off into the sunset, with absolutely zero consequences.
Morality is a luxury. Without civilization (technology/economy/laws/infrastructure), morality is a luxury almost no one can afford.
Vash is equally as moronic as Morgan from the walking dead.
Vash the Stampede is quite possibly the worst anime character ever created.
Such a waste of my time. Watched a couple of episodes. I looked at the IMDB ratings, and assumed that I would end up loving Trigun. I was only two episodes into the series, and I made a crappy decision to purchase these two statues:
http://www.amazon.com/Kotobukiya-Trigun-Stampede-Gunman-ArtFXJ/dp/B00E5MG184/ref=sr_1_2?s=toys-and-games&ie=UTF8&qid=1454704007&sr=1-2&keywords=vash+the+stampede
http://www.amazon.com/Kotobukiya-Trigun-Badlands-Nicholas-Wolfwood/dp/B00AQA0N06/ref=sr_1_2?s=toys-and-games&ie=UTF8&qid=1454704027&sr=1-2&keywords=nicholas+d+wolfwood
They haven't even arrived yet, and I'm already cancelling the order because I don't want eternal reminders of the single worst anime, and anime characters I've ever encountered in my entire life staring me in the face for the rest of my days.
Two eternal reminders of the hours of life I'll never get back. I don't even care if I don't get a full refund. I would rather throw those hellish things away, than sell them and risk having some poor shmuck bamboozled into thinking that the anime is actually worth watching.