'Identity' is the only stand out movie
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LTUM — 15 years ago(December 15, 2010 03:07 AM)
dude it is not even the fight scenes that were the prob, in number 2 and 3, but they shook the camera in ALL scenes, like sitting still in the cafe talking, and other times when it clearly should have been a tripod shot. that infuriated me so much i blasted paul greengrass a thousand times over on his board. he is a very stupid man, in my opinion.
but in the first one, the camera work was on spot. never faulty or wiggly or whatever. yes they cranked up the fight scenes, but when bourne one came out that was a fresh thing, and more of a style feature than a cop out. since then they have done it in lots of other films.
but to shake the cam all over the d@mn place when two people are sitting still at a cafe talking. that, my friend, is insane
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fredgarv79 — 15 years ago(January 09, 2011 07:41 PM)
I just noticed this. I tried watching the third one and just could not do it. like you said, every scene, no more than 1.2 seconds per shot. just watched the first one again, and wow, it was so great, I just love franka potente, I'm in total all out love with her, I love that german accent. anyway, first movie fantastic stuff, second one just barely ok, third one unwatchable, nothing but all out action with no story at all
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oonagimaki — 15 years ago(January 30, 2011 09:00 PM)
Handheld is nothing new but Greengrass gets that amateurish you are there credit. I mean his stuff is so insane that kids from this gen probably couldn't even spot the beautiful handheld work Liman did in the first one during the love scene.
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sanddragon939 — 16 years ago(December 12, 2009 09:26 AM)
Both the first and the second stand out on their ownthe third, I admit, is a bit of a rehash of the first two put together, albeit, it does resolve the storyline of the series, so it stands out at least in that regard.
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linda303 — 16 years ago(December 13, 2009 09:28 PM)
The first movie is excellent, the others are good. It is the first one that makes you want to see the others. The first one is better written because it is about the characters, not the action. We watch the sequels because we care about what happens to Jason Bourne, not because there is a shortage of films out there with car chases.
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filmmaniac111 — 16 years ago(February 11, 2010 12:57 PM)
no
we watch the others because we want to know what happens and to see incredible direction
the Bourne Films are different, exciting, have an amazing screenplay, and most of all, extreme intelligence
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LTUM — 15 years ago(December 15, 2010 03:09 AM)
im sorry but if you think the second and third are 'incredibly direction' then you should have your head examined.
they couldnt hold the camera still for either of those movies. insane. crazy.
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LTUM — 14 years ago(February 11, 2012 08:45 PM)
so true, so true
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charliebennett — 16 years ago(March 05, 2010 11:21 AM)
Couldn't agree more. I bought the box set cheap last week and have to say I really wanted to see Supremacy after Identity but watching the former nearly destroyed my will to live. I forced myself to watch Utimatum which was only marginally better. Greengrass, the Editor and the scriptwriter combined to ruin all that was good about the first. Shame.
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evonygameracc4 — 13 years ago(June 22, 2012 07:05 AM)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bourne_(film_series)
so legacy is not included at this point ???
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!!!deleted!!! (14789810) — 15 years ago(July 31, 2010 12:58 PM)
I would agree that Identity is the best but I feel it is a great trilogy.
The films get worse as they go but they stayed very high quality in my eyes
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m-slovak79 — 15 years ago(October 06, 2010 09:25 AM)
110 percent agreed with OP.
Identity (8/10) is much better than it's vastly overrated sequels especially the 3rd film which is currently #156 in Top250 as that's nothing special. (i liked the 3rd film better than 2nd but considering how praised the 3rd one is it's definitely overrated)
i think some of the problem with the 2nd/3rd is a lot of the action sequences are dulled down a little from that 'shaky cam' stuff or maybe editing to quick from scene to scene during action sequences etc. but either way something is missing from the 2nd/3rd Bourne films.
so personally i think the sequels should have a average rating of no more than the high 6's.
p.s. but for the record Matt Damon's best films are clearly Good Will Hunting/Rounders (both a 9/10) and 'The Departed' (9/10+) if you want to count that but he's not the clear star in The Departed like he is in the other two i listed.
but since people like to compare Bourne to Bond none of the Bourne films can touch Casino Royale (2006 which is a 9/10.
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koffeenkreame41-1 — 14 years ago(September 12, 2011 07:54 AM)
I preferred the first but the other two weren't that bad. Ultimatum was a great conclusion to the series. Supremacy was awesome and had a great story in it. All three Bourne movies are good enough to stand on their own.
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