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    devoe-3 — 12 years ago(August 14, 2013 10:32 AM)

    There are no Chinese casualties in Dinner Out. In the forged document, which is shown very clearly, the rules of engagement disallow any killing.

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      J_Crysher — 12 years ago(November 28, 2013 01:30 PM)

      There are a set of cut scenes, scenes that did not make it to the cinematic version of Spy Game, that can be seen on the DVD Special - among these scenes is a more comprehensive, and violent, act of the SEAL's taking the prison. This involve them cutting one Chinese prison guard's throat, and being in an extensive fire fight which results in the potential KIA of several Chinese prison guards.

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        brodieman1982 — 13 years ago(March 23, 2013 10:31 PM)

        If "Diner Out" failed, probably. But it didn't. They would have to shut every one up (Bishop, Muir, Elizabeth, Commander Wiley's outfit, Duncan). Theses guys are bureaucratic pussies. That is way to be much heat for them to bring down. They just gotta sweep it under the rug and move on.

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          actionmanrandell — 12 years ago(April 23, 2013 12:40 AM)

          no he wouldn't they were willing to let a man die just because he went off on his own this man got him out. the bureaucrats would not have wanted the paper work

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            luciengrey24 — 17 years ago(January 20, 2009 06:14 AM)

            Muir within those 24 hours showed that he had more intelligence or at least more guile than all the others in the room put together.
            Yes , i'm sure it probably was his life savings, but he is intelligent enough to recover it all within a short time.
            It was a tough call for him but he knew what he was doing. Like he said
            "Noah built the ark before the rain".
            A guy like Muir would have a backup plan.

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              heyheyet — 16 years ago(October 30, 2009 09:39 AM)

              agree.
              i believe it was his life savings. one of the reason why this movie was so touching. he gave his all to save Tom.
              i don't think that he would have a backup plan at that time, but since Muir is such a intelligent guy. he can always find a way to earn money.
              no worries.

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                a1_andy_11 — 16 years ago(November 04, 2009 03:47 PM)

                It was his life savings.
                There is proof of this at two points in the film: First when he is negotiating with the Chinese guy who has the authority to turn off power to the island. He goes backwards and forwards and he ends up giving him as much as he had in his account (282,000). Second was when his contact in Hong Kong said "it's not like it's your own money" he pauses and looks depressed for a second or two.
                Also I think he did actually plan to buy that place in the Bahamas when he retired, which was 282,000 so it stands to reason that he would have that in his account. Which incidentally backed up his story to his superiors when they found out about his wire transfer to the caymans.

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                  Desertman84 — 16 years ago(November 11, 2009 11:47 AM)

                  Nathan is already in the Bahamas after the CIA.Also,I do believe that he has more money than $282,000.Aside from that, he also will be away from spy life considering the actions of his last day in the CIA.

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                    actionmanrandell — 12 years ago(April 23, 2013 12:42 AM)

                    exactly but its not like he is now broke
                    because he just retired his retirement plan with the c.i.a would definitely be enough to live by

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                      bazkie — 10 years ago(April 16, 2015 06:04 PM)

                      Yeah and he still has that bad ass Porche, he could even use that as an asset to get himself a wife 😛

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                        zbyszanna — 16 years ago(November 29, 2009 01:49 PM)

                        His Bahama property was worth 282000 dollars. This is the exact amount he spent on bribe. If he spent all his money on this property, he would be left with no money to live off also. So he had to have some more not only to buy his new house, but to live afterwards.

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                            pjwrighty — 16 years ago(December 08, 2009 07:22 PM)

                            I'm pretty sure it was all of his money and the idea is that the CIA don't find him after he's left Langley. He's just demonstrated that he's a better agent than anyone in the conference room, so he'd have more than enough intelligence to evade capture.

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                                sschind — 15 years ago(June 04, 2010 01:44 PM)

                                "Dont you think it was odd? after Muir just told Tom Bishop never go out of your way for others.Muir also said if he goes off the reservation, he will not come after him.After the events in Beirut , if my pupil would tell me that "hes through with me and doesnt want to end up like me", I doubt I would be going out of my way to save him and his fanatic girlfriend."
                                Remind me never to rely on you in a pinch.
                                "heres another thing, .I would think that once the agency puts it all together( which i have no doubt they will, wouldnt they come and arrest Muir for not only forging the directors name on an unauthorized op? (the evidence is Idue to Commander Wiley talking to Muir about Operation" Dinner Out on the phone, im sure the agency knows that Muir set the op up ordering a rescue team of navy seals killing chinese soldiers in the process surely causing a diplomatic problem while rescuring bishop and hadley) muir may end up in jail"
                                He may but I'm guessing the CIA would rather just forget the whole thing rather than let it get out that they were willing to let one of their own be executed jut to cover their behinds.

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                                  actionmanrandell — 12 years ago(April 23, 2013 12:45 AM)

                                  he knows how the agency works and in no way shape or form will they bring charges up against him because it would be PR suicide

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                                    actionmanrandell — 12 years ago(April 23, 2013 12:43 AM)

                                    it was his money that was the entire point. but he would not be broke because he just retired so he would have been getting a monthly check for the rest of his life

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                                      schumithecat — 16 years ago(January 10, 2010 09:02 PM)

                                      he creates such a mess everything may be swept under the rug internally and he may be allowed to keep his government pension (and he gets social security) if he keeps quite about the embarrassing incident; no one would want him going on talk shows, writing a book, congressional hearings, etc. And he is so smooth he could find a wealthy widow to marry. Soothing things with the Chinese would be much harder diplomatically but that is really the country's problem, not his (although he may have to be punished to make amends). As another poster said, his goal was to help others even at the sacrifice of himself so they leave it ambiguous what will happen to him.

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                                        angelofvic — 16 years ago(January 27, 2010 10:12 PM)

                                        The movie doesn't tell us what happens, it just leaves us with the fact that Muir spent his last dime saving Bishop and his girlfriend, and now he is in deep doodoo because he has no money and no job. But then again, it's kind of a karmic balance because he is the one that put the girl in prison in the first place.
                                        Very moving ending.
                                        Of course, we hope that Muir will somehow use his wits to build a new life, presumably with a new identity. But he's gettin' kinda old to do that.
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                                          toky-world — 16 years ago(February 14, 2010 07:12 PM)

                                          CIA and the US government for that matter would be looking for him. To arrest him and hand him over to the Chinese or just send him to jail for the rest of his life (maybe even execution).
                                          But as have been said, he is a spy and probably would have a counterespionage training making him impossible to arrest. Please notice how he left in such a hurry from Langley (I presume), after that chances are he'd just fade away.
                                          For some reason I have the feeling that the US could send Bishop back to the Chinese, and promise to capture Muir. To make amends with China. So in the end maybe the whole rescue operation was for nothing.
                                          But Im sure US wouldn't sell out one of his own not when he is in american soil.
                                          BTW it's supposed to be 199X right?

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