How do people become spies…
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liakyh — 18 years ago(February 13, 2008 11:40 PM)
In times of conflict most spies tend to be locals, in the area where the spying takes place. In Cold War GDR for instance, the spy network consisted mostly of unhappy officials high up in the government hierarchy or military officers looking to defect to the 'land of the free'. Many of these people didn't do it for profit, they did it out of a personal want to see the socialist government fall. Most of these people never killed anyone either. Spies aren't supposed to be killing people. They got recruited mostly by approaching known NATO officials. Once a case officer feels that he isn't a double agent, the spy is set to work collecting information.
In more modern times, because of a lack of real established enemy states, the CIA's network has been greatly reduced when it comes to field agents. Most on the CIA's roster are analysts who work at Langley sifting through information from around the world. These analysts tend to be picked straight from graduating college batches who show promise in the relevant areas. People who work field ops tend to, like Mike Spann, killed at Qala-i-Jangi in 2001, be ex-military. Field ops in the modern CIA involves mostly open information gathering and building up of allies in warzones. For example prior to the 2001 invasion of Afghanistan, CIA field operatives were dropped in with money to buy the loyalty of local warlords to help fight the Taliban, or in fact just to promise not to attack US forces. Penetrating large governments like the Soviets during the Cold War doesn't happen any more. This is in part because most of the United State's enemies are radical Islamic groups. These groups recruit from students who attend madrassahs for years gaining the trust of the higher ups, or from tribes who have lived together as family in remote parts of the Middle East and former Soviet Central Asia. -
defiant-10 — 18 years ago(March 01, 2008 06:53 AM)
"In times of conflict most spies tend to be locals, in the area where the spying takes place."
Very good. Then, there are those such as Robert Hanssen, who are not only locals that are unhappy, but also possibly mentally unhinged.
What I had in mind was boxing the compass. -
justshovejayohbe — 18 years ago(March 10, 2008 12:51 PM)
My sister and I were both targeted for recruitment by intelligence agencies. The NSA tried to recruit her because of her computer skills. She graduated as one of the few women at RPI in the early 90s, and she had a lot of skills involving haptics (specifically she did stuff with users being operate computers and write and draw pictures using slight body movements and stuff in massage chairs without needing a monitor (kind of like a brail computer). Apparently they were fascinated by this. It started with a couple letters encouraging her to apply for a sort of standard computer operator type job, but then as her graduation neared she started getting calls and all that.
I graduated with a history master's specializing in martime history on my thesis and that sort of thing, and I started getting calls from the Office of Naval Intelligence in the US Navy. I wasn't exactly thrilled with the Iraq war starting at the time so I told the guy thanks but no thanks. He kept hounding me though and calling my house and made my parents furious because they thought i was thinking about joining the navy and yeah it was a big debacle -
Ace_In_The_Hole — 18 years ago(March 10, 2008 05:22 PM)
Office of Naval Intelligence?
I would've taken the job, it's not like you're gonna be dropped in downtown Baghdad patrolling in a Humvee.
I'd figure it'd be your job to gather intel on foreign navies, particularly the Iranian Navy. Maybe go after pirates off the Somalian coast, etc.
But the pay wouldn't be very stellar, I'd imagine
"Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today"- James Dean
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atila0603 — 18 years ago(March 15, 2008 05:41 PM)
I had this american English teacher (I'm from Mexico) who I think is a CIA agent. In the beginning of every course runs a little game that he calls "Johnny's got in his pocket". It's about remembering words in a specific order, he keeps a record of the highest scores. He even runned a little IQ test, I mean, it was a 3-question test, but, still. I suspect he's recruiting.
In his various stories he mentioned that he worked in law enforcement agencies back in the US and once told us about his experience in Viet Nam. Also, he has a friend (who happened to be my teacher) that once told me that he did some military intelligence in Germany for the US Army.
Maybe I let my imagination fly anyway, I wasnt recruited lol but, if my guess is right, I just blew their cover _ -
Filmfan-31 — 18 years ago(April 03, 2008 10:28 PM)
Army Green Berets are taking the position that CIA officers once held in the field. There was a National Geographic special where the operative work they were doing involved rallying the people in smaller villages of Afghanistan against the Taliban.
If you don't feel like going the Special Forces route, a lot of what the CIA looks for is intelligence related. Get a bachelors in international business and you've basically created an overseas cover for yourself. The ability to be fluid in the field is highly important also though. That's why they prefer military background, less training on what to look for when you're undercover and also recognition of how a foreign police/military force will come after you should you be exposed.
Lastly, physical fitness plays a part. I'm not sure how big of one though, it depends how deep you're really looking to get undercover. -
defiant-10 — 17 years ago(July 10, 2008 10:16 PM)
It's easy to learn. You just roll the paper up a bit, and -smacko- right on the flank. It's not the hitting, it's the sound of the paper and the location- right where another animal would attack -that gives the most noble hound quite a discomfiture.
What I had in mind was boxing the compass. -
Themanfromnantuckett — 10 years ago(August 17, 2015 07:18 PM)
Not well known to the genersl public but the Spleen from Mystery Men was the "Carlos Hathcock" of clandestine fart attacks. He was so legendary that he is still used as a consultant. He cant do field ops any more because as everyone knows, that as we get older you cant trust a fart. The depends are just to difficult to hide under skinny jeans. What a shame
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liddylewis — 17 years ago(August 10, 2008 02:51 PM)
I don't know but I do know this: I know a man who was a CIA agent and he told me this is the closest movie to reality that he has ever seen. He knows. No joke.
I did know a person who had a CIA application. It was 13 pages long! They want to know everything in the world about you. -
laforge1701 — 17 years ago(August 17, 2008 11:45 PM)
The CIA, like any good head hunters (although in their case, it may be more accurate) recruits from many locations.
That's assuming that the agencies we know about actually do the "spying" ..
there is a belief system that FBI, CIA, and NSA are all politics and police
more than "espionage" and it is "unknown" organizations that do all
the real "dirty work"
As for becoming a CIA operative, I was "this close" to being recruited
when I was still in school as I have a penchant for foreign languages,
and was interviewed for my skills. I opted not to pursue government work.
People who get into the agency and show certain skills may be brought
into more risky operations.
Military agents as well are just one of the many ways they
find people.