Question about Brown and Black Relationships…
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darker_fae — 17 years ago(November 30, 2008 03:28 PM)
Are brown people called Paki's by whites often? How do they usually respond?
I don't know what I would do. I'm Sri Lankan American and that happened to me only she wasn't white, she was African and she said that. I tried telling people that, but they just laughed it off. Blacks are treated well in America and if anyone said anything offensive, they'd be charged with a hate crime or beat up because African Americans have had it tough and I feel horrible for the way they were treated, I do, but that doesn't make her better than me. At least, that's what I thought before; now I'm not sure. -
Arsenal1508 — 17 years ago(November 30, 2008 03:35 PM)
Generally though, tightly-knit brown communities will view you in a different light, although they will offer great hospitality and (sometimes) even begin to accept you two as an interracial couple if you grow to be a part of their social circle.
Bullsh*t
To the original thread poster. I'm just sayingyou'll never be accepted in their social circle. Your wife would be referred as the one that disgraced the family and went with the black guy.
Trust me, if the family is active in the asian community and go to functionsthey won't do so if their daughter marries a black person. I'm Indian, not Pakistanibut I assume they're as close in cultural terms as Indians.
It's ok to have friendsbut never to have relationships. That's how are culture basically is. It's racist yeahbut heythe majority of blacks are just as racist in that sense as browns.
We all know there are a lot of civil, smart, and well spoken blacks. However, its those ghetto blacks hoodlums that have messed up your reputation. -
Dirty_South_Boss — 17 years ago(December 03, 2008 04:06 PM)
Ok, that's pretty offensive. First of all, the "Black reputation" is fine as far as i'm concerned. When someone is considered ignorant, they are just that., ignorant. I like to think that most people know enough about the world to recognize that there are embarrassments in every race; that ignorance, poor behavior and criminal activity are products of several personal and social factors, not tied to a particular race or culture. As for her socialite parents, me and her have both agreed that if they have an issue with what makes their daughter happy, then that's their problem. Not ours. I don't give a damn about what is perceived to be the "Black Reputation". If someone refuses to see me for my personal opinions and decisions, then they are entirely idiotic and not worth the effort it would take to educate them. To say that there are well educated and well spoken blacks (or however you put it) as though they are considered to be the minority of the Black population is needlessly disrespectful. You, clearly being of a race of culture and intelligence, should know better. That's if you believe your own bullshyt
Thanks to the honest, yet tasteful responses I received.
Thanks to the rest for shortening the list of moronic and rude people I will have to meet in this life, hopefully I can avoid you.
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Arsenal1508 — 17 years ago(December 03, 2008 05:54 PM)
HeyI was just being honest.
You should expect that sort of attitude when you meet her relativesor if you do so.
That's how the general culture sees Black people. For examplewe all get severly pissed off when we hear brown people getting shot down in gas stations etcmostlythe criminals were black.
Look, it'll be hard to change the mind of their parentsespecially if they're against it. For the general part..most asian families keep their culture through generation after generation. They want them to marry within their own race. They don't want to admit out aloudbut they're all closet racists. Sure, we'll have friends of different races, but we wouldn't approve of daugters, sons, sisters, brothers marrying outside their race.
Just like in Bend it Like Beckham when Parminder Nagra's character spoke about the race issue in the dressing room.blacks "eh eh."
You should ask you partner to read this read and she'll agree with my viewpoint. It may be ignorantbut it's the truth. -
Dirty_South_Boss — 17 years ago(December 03, 2008 06:25 PM)
Considering your still attempting to justify prejudice, I'll respectfully thank you for your opinion and leave it at that. Be blessed shawty
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Arsenal1508 — 17 years ago(December 04, 2008 09:52 AM)
Your an idiot if you think I'm trying to justify prejudice. I'm simply just stating the facts and trying to get you prepared for what our culture is generally like.
Heckeven I myself find different races attractive. But I don't think I'd ever cross the line for fear of what it'd do to my family. -
Dirty_South_Boss — 17 years ago(December 05, 2008 02:47 AM)
"That's how the general culture sees Black people. For examplewe all get severly pissed off when we hear brown people getting shot down in gas stations etcmostlythe criminals were black."
If you did any research at all on this claim, you'd know that 76% of gas station robberies are done by white substance abusers. So either the perception of your people is wrong, or you have a streak of bigotry in you that you're trying to assimilate with the views your peopleeither way, thanks for the info! And for the record, we don' care to convince anyone. I'd be nice to have their blessings, but we clearly don't need it.
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Dirty_South_Boss — 17 years ago(December 05, 2008 02:40 PM)
Yes, the same ones. And you know what? If they truly love their child, more than they do some cultural mores they feel they have to uphold, they would be happy for her. Long, long time fron now, when her parents are dead, the choices my lady makes will have to be square with her. She would only have herself to blame for any disappointments or regrets that she'd feel, not her parents. And she knows this. She loves herself enough to know that she has to make herself happy, not like the other brainless sheep who live miserable lives just to appear "proper" to heir social circles. But i guess you don't get that, huh? Sounds like your the type that doesn't have the balls to live your own life.I don't blame you though, it must be loads easier to live when someone else makes all the decisions..
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Arsenal1508 — 17 years ago(December 05, 2008 08:12 PM)
There is a thing called being filial to one's parents. It's not exactly common in other social circles like asian cultures.
Guess that's just the difference. To meyou just seem too narrow minded to understand it because you want to force your own philosophy onto theirs.
It's about preservation of one's culture through timenot to forget it. You hear some mixed raced saying"oh yes, I had a Grandfather that was Indian blah blah blah"but they don't know how to speak the language and have forgotten the rich culture. -
SexySamosa — 17 years ago(February 20, 2009 09:16 AM)
Arsenal1508, have you noticed it is common on this board for people to ask provocative questions and bring up touchy subjects, then they get all offended when they don't get the answers they want to hear? That's what we have with the OP here who is a sockpuppet for the kalu troll VaDirtySouth. Do you actually think that a kaffir and a kalu at that would be in a relationship with any 1st generation Pakistani girl and he would need to come on IMDB to discuss this matter. LOL!@ Believe me he would've been all "discussed" out from her friends and family within the first minutes of meeting them!
VaDirtySouth has a fetish for Desi women and he trolls these boards looking to start with us because Black / Desi relationships are frowned upon. He needs to get a life. -
Dirty_South_Boss — 17 years ago(February 26, 2009 07:22 PM)
Yeah, check the history of my poststhat's clearly my pattern(rolls eyes). I asked provocative question in the hope for honest yet polite responses.is it necessary to be rude to be persuasive? I think not.
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MysteryReaderReturns — 17 years ago(March 31, 2009 02:41 PM)
Dirty,
I'd just forget about themthey're racists & a waste of time. To them, you're seen as a manipulator, tainting the purity of a brown girl with your blackness. That's it. You're not as human as they are. If their cultures were important, perhaps they shouldn't move into diverse regions, especially the West.
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LiveTogetherDialAPhone — 15 years ago(July 12, 2010 12:34 PM)
"It's about preservation of one's culture through timenot to forget it. You hear some mixed raced saying"oh yes, I had a Grandfather that was Indian blah blah blah"but they don't know how to speak the language and have forgotten the rich culture."
Well, what do they expect? They moved to the UK, the US, or some other country in search of better opportunity, where the dominant culture is very different from their original culture. No one can have their cake and eat it too. What do they think is going to happen to their family after several generations of living in that society? It has happened time and time again, throughout history - Assimilation is not a new concept.
And anyway, just because one assimilates into a new culture doesn't mean they have to forget their ancestral culture. People are free to practise their ancestral religion, learn to speak their ancestral language, visit the lands of their ancestors, cook the foods, and appreciate the art and music. All of my ancestors came to the United States over a century ago, and in some cases three centuries ago. I still enjoy learning about and taking pride in the cultures they came from. -
lolavideola — 17 years ago(April 03, 2009 05:50 AM)
Hey Dirty,
I am a white girl married to an Indian guy. Indian/pakistani culture are nearly the same in this regard. They are both extremely racist. ESPECIALLY against blacks. They do view black people as inferior. Their mindset to this day is: "God forbid that my daughter/son marry a black!!!!"
Heck they are even prejudiced against whites, so black people don't stand much chance. BUT once her family/community gets to know you as a person, they will definitely warm up to you and realise how stupid their prejudices are.
Their communities and mind-set(especially those settled in the west/UK) are extremely insular because they are fighting against losing their cultural identity.
Hope this helps.