Democrats in California should be rounded up
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Pottymouth — 1 year ago(January 12, 2025 09:27 PM)
If you care to actually know, you could find out.
There was plenty of water. No shortage there. The local water system failed because the city’s infrastructure was built to respond to routine structure fires, not massive wildfires across multiple neighborhoods. Plus the very, very dry conditions together with the winds made it worse.
No conspiracy here. Nothing political.
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Yermom_Is_God — 1 year ago(January 12, 2025 09:31 PM)
These retards will never accept that Democrat policies have failed, ever, and these would be the same people who blamed George Bush for not holding up levees himself during Katrina. You are wasting your time.
"I am Kamala Harris, my pronouns are she and her, and I am a woman sitting at the table wearing a blue suit." -A fucking idiot -
Yermom_Is_God — 1 year ago(January 13, 2025 12:05 AM)
Pottymouth said...
You guys politicize everything. It has nothing to do with Democratic or Republican policies.
You guys are what allowed an ass flown like Trump in the awhite House.
You will be very very sorry.
Yes it does, actually, because Democrats politicize everything about blame everything on Republicans, and even when it is clearly the fault of Democrats they still blame it on Republicans. You guys act like retarded, ****ty, destructive, dumb gay Democrats are perfect and nothing they do is ever wrong.
"I am Kamala Harris, my pronouns are she and her, and I am a woman sitting at the table wearing a blue suit." -A fucking idiot -
Pottymouth — 1 year ago(January 13, 2025 01:13 PM)
Yermom_Is_God said...
Yes it does, actually, because Democrats politicize everything about blame everything on Republicans, and even when it is clearly the fault of Democrats they still blame it on Republicans. You guys act like retarded, shitty, destructive, dumb gay Democrats are perfect and nothing they do is ever wrong.
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Yermom_Is_God — 1 year ago(January 13, 2025 01:57 PM)
Pottymouth said...
That’s such a childish response. Shit happens. It’s just not political.
Right, strictly because Democrats are in charge. If it were a red state you'd be calling for their heads.
"I am Kamala Harris, my pronouns are she and her, and I am a woman sitting at the table wearing a blue suit." -A fucking idiot -
Yermom_Is_God — 1 year ago(January 13, 2025 02:19 PM)
Pottymouth said...
Shit happens. Deal with it.
True, and it's important to point out the left's constant hypocrisy and double standards.
Also, you mentioned a few times it was a natural disaster. That's not true. It was arson.
"I am Kamala Harris, my pronouns are she and her, and I am a woman sitting at the table wearing a blue suit." -A fucking idiot -
Lilith — 1 year ago(January 13, 2025 02:04 AM)
Pottymouth said...
You guys politicize everything. It has nothing to do with Democratic or Republican policies.
You guys are what allowed an ass flown like Trump in the awhite House.
You will be very very sorry.
Why shouldn't at least a
chunk
of this be politicized? The Santa Ana winds were predicted and while never seen to this degree, it's a known factor that needs to be considered. There is an over-population of humans, and that includes building houses in areas that are in high-risk area as well as the swelling of illegal aliens and homelessness in the area. Aspects of this weather has been predicted, and CA gets wildfires every single year. This is not unprecedented. It's why insurance companies bailed 6 months ago, something Karen Bass should have been aware of. It's called risk management. No one will underwrite a policy when the premiums are capped or want to insure structures that are built in areas that have been determined to be too risky…. yet they keep right on repeating the same mistakes and never fix the problems to allow people to do their work in the event of a catastrophe. The Democrats are housing and diverting funds to pay for illegal aliens to live in the cities. Several people were caught (and that's just what we know about) with blow torches setting fires to property, and they don't get arrested, or if they do, they're released so they can re-offend. This
is
a political issue. Mismanagement of money, like cutting almost $20 million from the LAFD, but sending more money to things like cannabis programs, the homeless and immigration, and libraries.
Even if you want to believe in climate change, that green new deal pushed by Democrats is what made preparation for handling this event impossible. Newsom proudly destroyed four dams that could have been used to house water. One dam was "down for repairs" since April of last year, and while tax money was funneled into the government for restoration,
nothing was done
, leaving a 117-million-gallon reservoir completely empty. The Democrat party has pushed DEI initiatives and diverted funds that could have gone to infrastructure and preparedness, including restoring the 50 or so fire departments they closed, and that money was spent specifically on DEI training. Do you consider that a proper use of taxpayer funds instead of what might have helped these firefighters that are now forced to risk their lives to poor pre-planning?
It was the Democrat party buckling to climate change activists and refused to allow fire breaks and forest management that would have prevented the fire from spreading. The same activists pushed to not allow cleanup of tinder, leaves, downed trees and branches that are like kindling
when
, not if, a fire strikes up. The Democrats funneled flowing, free fresh water into the ocean that could have been funneled into dams to provide water. Why didn't the Department of Public Works maintain the hydrants and plumbing and whatever else was needed so the firefighters could do their job?
If it's climate change, why aren't there wildfires happening in other states like this? Again, human error in choosing when and where to build as well as housing density. And if you believe in climate change, - so what? Let's suppose that's happening. It still comes down to management in advance and a state of preparation and readiness. How are they preparing to handle these so-called "climate changes" that are occurring? By hiring people who are patently unfit to do the job but tick boxes. If climate change is real, then anticipate these events and put the proper work in place to handle the anticipated changes, regardless of cause. The
cause
is irrelevant when peoples' lives are being put at risk.
"Your emotional state is not my responsibility." – Warren Smith -
Yermom_Is_God — 1 year ago(January 13, 2025 02:33 AM)
Lilith said...
Why shouldn't at least a
chunk
of this be politicized? The Santa Ana winds were predicted and while never seen to this degree, it's a known factor that needs to be considered. There is an over-population of humans, and that includes building houses in areas that are in high-risk area as well as the swelling of illegal aliens and homelessness in the area. Aspects of this weather has been predicted, and CA gets wildfires every single year. This is not unprecedented. It's why insurance companies bailed 6 months ago, something Karen Bass should have been aware of. It's called risk management. No one will underwrite a policy when the premiums are capped or want to insure structures that are built in areas that have been determined to be too risky…. yet they keep right on repeating the same mistakes and never fix the problems to allow people to do their work in the event of a catastrophe. The Democrats are housing and diverting funds to pay for illegal aliens to live in the cities. Several people were caught (and that's just what we know about) with blow torches setting fires to property, and they don't get arrested, or if they do, they're released so they can re-offend. This
is
a political issue. Mismanagement of money, like cutting almost $20 million from the LAFD, but sending more money to things like cannabis programs, the homeless and immigration, and libraries.
Even if you want to believe in climate change, that green new deal pushed by Democrats is what made preparation for handling this event impossible. Newsom proudly destroyed four dams that could have been used to house water. One dam was "down for repairs" since April of last year, and while tax money was funneled into the government for restoration,
nothing was done
, leaving a 117-million-gallon reservoir completely empty. The Democrat party has pushed DEI initiatives and diverted funds that could have gone to infrastructure and preparedness, including restoring the 50 or so fire departments they closed, and that money was spent specifically on DEI training. Do you consider that a proper use of taxpayer funds instead of what might have helped these firefighters that are now forced to risk their lives to poor pre-planning?
It was the Democrat party buckling to climate change activists and refused to allow fire breaks and forest management that would have prevented the fire from spreading. The same activists pushed to not allow cleanup of tinder, leaves, downed trees and branches that are like kindling
when
, not if, a fire strikes up. The Democrats funneled flowing, free fresh water into the ocean that could have been funneled into dams to provide water. Why didn't the Department of Public Works maintain the hydrants and plumbing and whatever else was needed so the firefighters could do their job?
If it's climate change, why aren't there wildfires happening in other states like this? Again, human error in choosing when and where to build as well as housing density. And if you believe in climate change, - so what? Let's suppose that's happening. It still comes down to management in advance and a state of preparation and readiness. How are they preparing to handle these so-called "climate changes" that are occurring? By hiring people who are patently unfit to do the job but tick boxes. If climate change is real, then anticipate these events and put the proper work in place to handle the anticipated changes, regardless of cause. The
cause
is irrelevant when peoples' lives are being put at risk.
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Why shouldn't at least a chunk of this be politicized?
He's going to give you some bullshit fake answer, but his real answer is "Because it makes Democrats look bad. Only us Democrats are allowed to politicize **** to attack Republicans."
"I am Kamala Harris, my pronouns are she and her, and I am a woman sitting at the table wearing a blue suit." -A fucking idiot -
Dreams & Fantazeez — 1 year ago(January 13, 2025 02:53 AM)
Lilith said...
Why shouldn't at least a
chunk
of this be politicized? The Santa Ana winds were predicted and while never seen to this degree, it's a known factor that needs to be considered. There is an over-population of humans, and that includes building houses in areas that are in high-risk area as well as the swelling of illegal aliens and homelessness in the area. Aspects of this weather has been predicted, and CA gets wildfires every single year. This is not unprecedented. It's why insurance companies bailed 6 months ago, something Karen Bass should have been aware of. It's called risk management. No one will underwrite a policy when the premiums are capped or want to insure structures that are built in areas that have been determined to be too risky…. yet they keep right on repeating the same mistakes and never fix the problems to allow people to do their work in the event of a catastrophe. The Democrats are housing and diverting funds to pay for illegal aliens to live in the cities. Several people were caught (and that's just what we know about) with blow torches setting fires to property, and they don't get arrested, or if they do, they're released so they can re-offend. This
is
a political issue. Mismanagement of money, like cutting almost $20 million from the LAFD, but sending more money to things like cannabis programs, the homeless and immigration, and libraries.
Even if you want to believe in climate change, that green new deal pushed by Democrats is what made preparation for handling this event impossible. Newsom proudly destroyed four dams that could have been used to house water. One dam was "down for repairs" since April of last year, and while tax money was funneled into the government for restoration,
nothing was done
, leaving a 117-million-gallon reservoir completely empty. The Democrat party has pushed DEI initiatives and diverted funds that could have gone to infrastructure and preparedness, including restoring the 50 or so fire departments they closed, and that money was spent specifically on DEI training. Do you consider that a proper use of taxpayer funds instead of what might have helped these firefighters that are now forced to risk their lives to poor pre-planning?
It was the Democrat party buckling to climate change activists and refused to allow fire breaks and forest management that would have prevented the fire from spreading. The same activists pushed to not allow cleanup of tinder, leaves, downed trees and branches that are like kindling
when
, not if, a fire strikes up. The Democrats funneled flowing, free fresh water into the ocean that could have been funneled into dams to provide water. Why didn't the Department of Public Works maintain the hydrants and plumbing and whatever else was needed so the firefighters could do their job?
If it's climate change, why aren't there wildfires happening in other states like this? Again, human error in choosing when and where to build as well as housing density. And if you believe in climate change, - so what? Let's suppose that's happening. It still comes down to management in advance and a state of preparation and readiness. How are they preparing to handle these so-called "climate changes" that are occurring? By hiring people who are patently unfit to do the job but tick boxes. If climate change is real, then anticipate these events and put the proper work in place to handle the anticipated changes, regardless of cause. The
cause
is irrelevant when peoples' lives are being put at risk.
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….that green new deal pushed by Democrats is what made preparation for handling this event impossible. Newsom proudly destroyed four dams that could have been used to house water. One dam was "down for repairs" since April of last year, and while tax money was funneled into the government for restoration, nothing was done, leaving a 117-million-gallon reservoir completely empty.
@Pottymouth
has it right to your moronic arguments that make no sense and are totally incorrect and have zero proof of a connection for them to have enough water for fighting the fires.
There was plenty of water. No shortage there. The local water system failed because the city’s infrastructure was built to respond to routine structure fires, not massive wildfires across multiple neighborhoods. Plus the very, very dry conditions together with the winds made it worse.
Trying to put out these massive fires is like trying to put out a fire in your house that has been engulfed in fire and all you have is a Super Soaker to battle the flames.
No amount of water or manpower could have done anything in putting them out.
That is just conventional wisdom.
As for your claim of LAFD DEI hires which again is totally irrelevant and has nothing at all to do with how this fire got out of control and was impossible to stop:
As for the impact of DEI policies on putting out wildfires, "I give it only slightly more credibility than the Jewish space laser theories," said
Mike Beasle -
Lilith — 1 year ago(January 13, 2025 03:21 AM)
Dreams & Fantazeez said...
….that green new deal pushed by Democrats is what made preparation for handling this event impossible. Newsom proudly destroyed four dams that could have been used to house water. One dam was "down for repairs" since April of last year, and while tax money was funneled into the government for restoration, nothing was done, leaving a 117-million-gallon reservoir completely empty.
@Pottymouth
has it right to your moronic arguments that make no sense and are totally incorrect and have zero proof of a connection for them to have enough water for fighting the fires.
There was plenty of water. No shortage there. The local water system failed because the city’s infrastructure was built to respond to routine structure fires, not massive wildfires across multiple neighborhoods. Plus the very, very dry conditions together with the winds made it worse.
Trying to put out these massive fires is like trying to put out a fire in your house that has been engulfed in fire and all you have is a Super Soaker to battle the flames.
No amount of water or manpower could have done anything in putting them out.
That is just conventional wisdom.
As for your claim of LAFD DEI hires which again is totally irrelevant and has nothing at all to do with how this fire got out of control and was impossible to stop:
As for the impact of DEI policies on putting out wildfires, "I give it only slightly more credibility than the Jewish space laser theories," said
Mike Beasley, who heads the board of Firefighters United for Safety Ethics and Ecology.
In 40 years of firefighting, he says he has watched wildfires become more extreme and "meaner."
"There is no number of people that will stop all the fires in the middle of a hot, dry season with the climate charged fuel aridity. There just isn't," said Beasley.
"With these Santa Ana winds happening, it's just about getting people out of the way. It's not really about putting the fire out until the winds calm down."
Beasley says there are many legitimate discussions these fires should raise about climate change, firefighting budgets, water management, housing development, insurance and outdated infrastructure.
"No fire agency is going to sacrifice training and fundamental fire control and fundamental operations at the expense of DEI training," said Beasley,
who said diverse teams are better at tackling complex challenges, working under pressure and fostering community trust during emergencies.
https://www.npr.org/2025/01/10/nx-s1-5252757/california-wildfires-dei-diversity-influencers-firefighters
You are a Right Wing leaning Trumptard who voted for Turd Lump so of course you are going to jump on the Dem. blame bandwagon filled with bullshit.
Also because you are a fucking retard who goes along with conspiracy theories who has no fucking idea how to think for herself.
Common sense with you is never common.
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You missed the entire point of my post which was that money that should have been spent on increasing manpower, not removing 1/3 of the fire departments, not closing 4 dams, not utilizing runoff water into containment, reallocating and diverting funds, sending equipment that could have been used to Ukraine, not managing the forest and grounds properly with fire breaks and removed tinder. What part of that are you not grasping. This goes beyond what's being done now to contain this fire, and the point is that CA has had years to take appropriate action to stabilize the area and prevent fires from spreading. CA actually spent years doing the wrong thing so that when something this extreme happened, they would have a better chance at battling it.
I have both liberal and conservative values. I'm not sure what your point is. There is nothing wrong with having conservative viewpoints and opinions.
Now that I know you are Warren, consider yourself blocked.
"Your emotional state is not my responsibility." – Warren Smith -
That's nun of your business — 1 year ago(January 13, 2025 07:14 PM)
Lilith said...
You missed the entire point of my post which was that money that should have been spent on increasing manpower, not removing 1/3 of the fire departments, not closing 4 dams, not utilizing runoff water into containment, reallocating and diverting funds, sending equipment that could have been used to Ukraine, not managing the forest and grounds properly with fire breaks and removed tinder. What part of that are you not grasping. This goes beyond what's being done now to contain this fire, and the point is that CA has had years to take appropriate action to stabilize the area and prevent fires from spreading. CA actually spent years doing the wrong thing so that when something this extreme happened, they would have a better chance at battling it.
I have both liberal and conservative values. I'm not sure what your point is. There is nothing wrong with having conservative viewpoints and opinions.
Now that I know you are Warren, consider yourself blocked.
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Even if they had done all of that "Woulda…coulda…shoulda…" there still would have been massive wildfires.
There is only so much humans can do and one of the things we cannot do is control huge and massive disasters.
You need to realize this.
If you still disagree and seeing how you are a know it all who knows so much then go there and volunteer to be a firefighter and show them how to do it.
Or run for office.
Again, just a loud mouth crackpot who is clueless and it is no surprise that it is you who jumps on the Dem. blame bullshit bandwagon.
Sometimes **** happens and this was one of those times where nothing could have ever been done about it to prevent it.
And now I shall block you so I don't have to read and deal your retarded **** anymore.
I win.
You lose.
Good riddance to another MAGAt stupid ****. -
Pottymouth — 1 year ago(January 13, 2025 01:19 PM)
Lilith said...
Why shouldn't at least a
chunk
of this be politicized? The Santa Ana winds were predicted and while never seen to this degree, it's a known factor that needs to be considered. There is an over-population of humans, and that includes building houses in areas that are in high-risk area as well as the swelling of illegal aliens and homelessness in the area. Aspects of this weather has been predicted, and CA gets wildfires every single year. This is not unprecedented. It's why insurance companies bailed 6 months ago, something Karen Bass should have been aware of. It's called risk management. No one will underwrite a policy when the premiums are capped or want to insure structures that are built in areas that have been determined to be too risky…. yet they keep right on repeating the same mistakes and never fix the problems to allow people to do their work in the event of a catastrophe. The Democrats are housing and diverting funds to pay for illegal aliens to live in the cities. Several people were caught (and that's just what we know about) with blow torches setting fires to property, and they don't get arrested, or if they do, they're released so they can re-offend. This
is
a political issue. Mismanagement of money, like cutting almost $20 million from the LAFD, but sending more money to things like cannabis programs, the homeless and immigration, and libraries.
Even if you want to believe in climate change, that green new deal pushed by Democrats is what made preparation for handling this event impossible. Newsom proudly destroyed four dams that could have been used to house water. One dam was "down for repairs" since April of last year, and while tax money was funneled into the government for restoration,
nothing was done
, leaving a 117-million-gallon reservoir completely empty. The Democrat party has pushed DEI initiatives and diverted funds that could have gone to infrastructure and preparedness, including restoring the 50 or so fire departments they closed, and that money was spent specifically on DEI training. Do you consider that a proper use of taxpayer funds instead of what might have helped these firefighters that are now forced to risk their lives to poor pre-planning?
It was the Democrat party buckling to climate change activists and refused to allow fire breaks and forest management that would have prevented the fire from spreading. The same activists pushed to not allow cleanup of tinder, leaves, downed trees and branches that are like kindling
when
, not if, a fire strikes up. The Democrats funneled flowing, free fresh water into the ocean that could have been funneled into dams to provide water. Why didn't the Department of Public Works maintain the hydrants and plumbing and whatever else was needed so the firefighters could do their job?
If it's climate change, why aren't there wildfires happening in other states like this? Again, human error in choosing when and where to build as well as housing density. And if you believe in climate change, - so what? Let's suppose that's happening. It still comes down to management in advance and a state of preparation and readiness. How are they preparing to handle these so-called "climate changes" that are occurring? By hiring people who are patently unfit to do the job but tick boxes. If climate change is real, then anticipate these events and put the proper work in place to handle the anticipated changes, regardless of cause. The
cause
is irrelevant when peoples' lives are being put at risk.
expand
Short answer is because the natural occurrences and CLIMATE CHANGE that caused these fires in this location doesn’t happen in other areas. A lot of rain, then overgrowth, then a bought of very dry weather,then property owners not clearing brush around their dwellings, plus the high winds (30 MOH plus), plus too many fires of an unprecedented magnitude depleted the water supply which was meant and more than sufficient for LOCAL fires happened. Nothing political here. Only in your head. -
Lilith — 1 year ago(January 13, 2025 01:55 PM)
Pottymouth said...
Short answer is because the natural occurrences and CLIMATE CHANGE that caused these fires in this location doesn’t happen in other areas. A lot of rain, then overgrowth, then a bought of very dry weather,then property owners not clearing brush around their dwellings, plus the high winds (30 MOH plus), plus too many fires of an unprecedented magnitude depleted the water supply which was meant and more than sufficient for LOCAL fires happened. Nothing political here. Only in your head.
I never said politics caused the fires. What about this are you not grasping? It was the policies that made fighting this even harder than it had to be. Even if you believe climate change is real, what are you going to do about it to combat it? That's what I'm trying to get to. Climate is not weather. Climate did not "dry up" water supplies. Dams were closed and water was diverted, and the infrastructure was not maintained. In the process of this, the budget was slashed, fire departments were closed, and their priorities were skewed.
This was unprecedented weather with regards to 100mph winds, but the circumstances were predicted in advance, which is why insurance companies cancelled policies just months prior. This was predicted, and they did nothing. That
is
politics, like it or not.
"Your emotional state is not my responsibility." – Warren Smith -
Pottymouth — 1 year ago(January 13, 2025 02:02 PM)
Lilith said...
I never said politics caused the fires. What about this are you not grasping? It was the policies that made fighting this even harder than it had to be. Even if you believe climate change is real, what are you going to do about it to combat it? That's what I'm trying to get to. Climate is not weather. Climate did not "dry up" water supplies. Dams were closed and water was diverted, and the infrastructure was not maintained. In the process of this, the budget was slashed, fire departments were closed, and their priorities were skewed.
This was unprecedented weather with regards to 100mph winds, but the circumstances were predicted in advance, which is why insurance companies cancelled policies just months prior. This was predicted, and they did nothing. That
is
politics, like it or not.
Really???? The “policies” you reference politicize the fires.
You can have ALL the advance notice, but you can’t actually KNOW how it’s going to turn out.
Let’s blame politics on the 3 hurricanes that hit Florida this years.
Let’s blame politics on the wildfires in NJ last year.
Let’s blame politics for the blow average cold in the upper US this year.
See how nuts that sounds? -
Lilith — 1 year ago(January 13, 2025 02:11 PM)
Pottymouth said...
Really???? The “policies” you reference politicize the fires.
You can have ALL the advance notice, but you can’t actually KNOW how it’s going to turn out.
Let’s blame politics on the 3 hurricanes that hit Florida this years.
Let’s blame politics on the wildfires in NJ last year.
Let’s blame politics for the blow average cold in the upper US this year.
See how nuts that sounds?
Yes. The policies were put in place by Democrats who were not listening to experts. They battle wildfires every year, so cutting expenditures and diverting funds and training was political. CA pays the highest taxes in the country, and they cut the budgets of essential departments while focusing on irrelevant issues that should not matter. When even the insurance companies could foretell of these events, you know they could have been better prepared.
I'll say it for the hundredth time, I am not blaming politics for the weather. I am blaming politics for making the job of fighting these fires more difficult than it needed to be and this was anticipated but not prepared for. Weather is not political.
"Your emotional state is not my responsibility." – Warren Smith -
Yermom_Is_God — 1 year ago(January 12, 2025 07:49 PM)
Forgive me for my comment above. That wasn't you. I confused you with DoucheBag.
"I am Kamala Harris, my pronouns are she and her, and I am a woman sitting at the table wearing a blue suit." -A fucking idiot
Schrodinger's Cat walks into a bar, and doesn't. 