Is Samara really evil?
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crissttigaldames — 9 years ago(June 06, 2016 01:38 PM)
This. She had an evil aspect to her to begin with, but wasn't actually evil imo. The horses killing themselves seemed to be a reaction they had to her independent of her wanting them to, as we can see by the horse's reaction to Rachael, and the horse acting up and hurting the rider when she was only a baby.
She turns completely evil out of rage once her mother kills her.
I don't remember her saying she wants to hurt people in the phychiatric hospital tape though?. I just watched it and I remember her saying how she made the pictures (pictures which have nothing evil about them, they're just memories), saying that she loves her mother and that her father doesn't love her I think the worse she says is that her hurting people won't stop?. -
ira_gaines — 9 years ago(June 06, 2016 03:32 PM)
(pictures which have nothing evil about them, they're just memories)
Samara's "pictures" aren't memories, they're visions from the future. In the deleted scenes this pretty much indicated explicitly, but you can piece it together from the film itself as well. -
jqp5296 — 9 years ago(June 14, 2016 02:35 PM)
I think she's always been evil.
The woman Rachel speaks to on the island mentions how they had tried for years to conceive but couldn't and one day "came back with a daughter". To me, this implies that she was either taken from someone (unclear origins) or conceived in an other worldly way that wasn't mean to be. I just watched the film, and she does say she hurts people in the hospital, however, it has two meanings. The first time you hear it, it sounds innocent, but the saying is replayed later in the film and takes on a new meaning.
The man says she hurts her parents/others, and says "You don't want to hurt anyone do you Samara?" She says "But I do, and I'm sorry. It won't stop."
Initially, you take this as she's sorry she hurts them, she doesn't mean to, and she wants it to be over, as in "But I do hurt them, and I'm sorry. It won't stop." But the second time, it's played back near the end and she's looking at the camera with a sinister look that you didn't see before. This time, the meaning changes. She is essentially saying "But I do want to hurt them. I'm sorry, but it won't stop." -
ira_gaines — 9 years ago(June 16, 2016 05:22 PM)
But the second time, it's played back near the end and she's looking at the camera with a sinister look that you didn't see before. This time, the meaning changes. She is essentially saying "But I do want to hurt them. I'm sorry, but it won't stop."
That's in Rachel's head though, in the actual video Samara wasn't looking at the camera. This is just symbolic story telling for the audience's benefit. This clip repeated in a more sinister way is meant to represent the curse. -
hannahrose313 — 9 years ago(August 27, 2016 05:56 AM)
How do you know that? When Anna originally watched the tape, she was sympathetic towards Samara and believed her to be an innocent, abused child. When she copied the tape, she knew that this most likely wasn't the case. I think what Anna saw reflected her opinion of Samara at the time.
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Samara controls how one sees the tape. She knew Anna was sympathetic, and manipulated the tape to make her look innocent so Anna would eventually free her. At the end, she revealed her "true" self because at this point she was free and it didn't matter. -
termigreen — 9 years ago(October 26, 2016 05:58 PM)
Samara never admitted to enjoying hurting people. When she says "But I do, and I'm sorry" (in response to "You don't want to hurt anyone"), she's saying that she still ends up hurting people even though she doesn't want to; it's like it's out of her control. Another way of wording it is "I don't want to hurt anybody, but I somehow do hurt them."
As far as her origin, I'm pretty sure it's mentioned even if briefly, that Samara was adopted; this is later confirmed in the sequel Ring 2. It is known by the first film that she wasn't conceived by Anna. Concerning whether Samara has always been evil and whether it's the individual that's evil, I think it goes more like the human girl Samara is not evil. However, when she was born, somehow an evil spirit entered her body and used it as a vessel. When Anna killed Samara, the only bit of good (ie, the girl, who doesn't want to hurt anybody) was lost, unleashing the evil side that is not bound by a human host, but by projecting through media. It still takes the form of the girl (Samara), albeit heavily decayed to accelerate the fear in the victims. -
FirstBlood1982 — 9 years ago(February 03, 2017 08:41 PM)
"As far as her origin, I'm pretty sure it's mentioned even if briefly, that Samara was adopted; this is later confirmed in the sequel Ring 2."
The Ring Two offered a pretty poor backstory that conflicts with the unnatural conception that was addressed in the extended footage on The Ring DVD/Blu-ray.
That awful backstory was a big part of why The Ring Two was such a dud of a film.
The implied backstory in the first film was much more effective.
Many sequels change the story of their predecessors, often for the worstThe Ring Two is a prime example. It took nearly a decade and a half for Samara to get another film because of how badly that movie screwed up her story.
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CB101 — 9 years ago(August 27, 2016 05:25 PM)
To me she has evil powers that she can't control but isn't intending to hurt anyone when she was alive. In the psych ward, when the doctor says "You don't want to hurt anyone. She says "But I do and I'm sorry but it won't stop. Anna throwing her down the well then made it worse.
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liquoricelakrits — 9 years ago(August 30, 2016 05:36 AM)
Got this from another source:
Samaras birth mother tried to drown her when she was a baby, because the baby told her to do so. This was so she could save Samara from the evil sprit that was possessing her. Later she was adopted by the Morgans and Samara had the power of projected thermography (she can burn images into other peoples minds and ofc - video tapes). The horses and her mother went crazy because of Samaras powers and the projecting, so her mother tried to kill her. And that I guess was the staring point of Samaras spirit creating a cursed video tape as revenge.
Samara is evil, but it seems like it's not the real person Samaras fault. It's more like she has "powers" that keeps on hurting other people. -
fiatlux-1 — 9 years ago(September 12, 2016 06:28 PM)
The film's ending makes it clear that Samara IS evil.
Deliberately so.
The scene alone where Rachael finally gets to see the scene from the video
without Samara's trickery
says volumes:
Doctor: You don't want to hurt anyone.
Samara: But I
do
. smirks & speaks mockingly now And I'm sorry. It won't stop.
She manipulated the image & the intonations of the words, in Rachael's mind, to make her think she herself was a victim..when she was the villain.
I'd say this cloud is Cumulo Nimbus.
Didn't he discover America?
Penfold, shush.