Why is this considered THAT good?
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hansenmv2002 — 12 years ago(March 16, 2014 09:23 PM)
took me a good year to get into NF being some writer on Castle. That Captain on "enterpise" was the same thing i thought Quantum Leap sucked soooo badly.
Ive never seen more than 5 minutes of "Buffy" - just dont get it.. obvious HUGE hit - still - guess i missed it.
John: yeah, yeah, yeah. Russell: no, no, no
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Iamnotasuperhero — 11 years ago(April 20, 2014 11:22 AM)
As I understand it, though the entire Miranda thing was originally planned for Season 2, Book and Wash were written off as the actors were unable to immediately commit to another film.
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Tjanssen411 — 11 years ago(April 20, 2014 10:26 PM)
I think One of them (likely Wash) was Due to Die in "Season 2" because well; Whedon.
and when they distilled said season into 'The Movie' Both ended up getting cut due to a combination of schedule and the original plan. -
picturetaker — 12 years ago(February 08, 2014 04:57 PM)
Why is Breaking Bad and The Walking Dead considered so good? Characters! Characters! Characters! The character development of those shows is why they are rated so high. It isn't about making Meth or getting eaten by Walkers. Same with Firefly. It isn't about space. Like wow what a good show!
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dan6pitcher — 10 years ago(July 09, 2015 01:27 PM)
No. It's plot, excitement and compelling writing.
The characters are a part of it, but those shows became megahits not just because of well written characters, they became megahits because of the cliffhangers and exciting moments. Case-in-point: Whenever TWD has a slow-down in action and has character-driven episodes, the message boards are lit up with haters and complainers. Same goes for The Sopranos and any episode without a hit in it. Or Dexter whenever he didn't kill people.
I REALLY wanted to become a die-hard fan of Firefly, but I watched the whole series and simply did not see why it's so great. It's decent, but I wouldn't even put it in the same category as Journeyman. -
preachcaleb — 10 years ago(July 10, 2015 06:41 AM)
Or Dexter whenever he didn't kill people.
That was the least of Dexter's problems.
I REALLY wanted to become a die-hard fan of Firefly, but I watched the whole series and simply did not see why it's so great.
That's cool. It's not for everyone. Not everyone was a Browncoat or Alliance.
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dan6pitcher — 10 years ago(July 10, 2015 09:28 AM)
Dexter was a HUGE hit and while it did go off the rails towards the end (because it really should only have been a 4 season show ending with Dexter getting caught or killed) my point remains valid. Fans did not want to see the character-driven episodes, they wanted the action ones and wanted to see him kill.
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saga_heart — 12 years ago(February 10, 2014 02:20 PM)
I did not watch this show when it came out. The airing was irregular and often preempted by a sports event. It just did not click with me. Years later I happened upon the DVD set, or at least the first and third discs for $1 each at a close out sale. Since I like science fiction (and at $2 for the two DVD volumes) I figured I'd take a chance.
Yes, I found that it is science function, but this is only the setting or I could call it the wrapper. The show was about people. Very different people who for their own reasons came on board Serenity. And even though diverse they managed to work together. In the first episode it is clearly seen who the crew is and who the passengers are, but as the series develops that line is blurred to a point where everyone is considered part of a team. They all belong on Serenity.
As others have said, it is the character development, but it is also the characters themselves that drew me in. Just briefly, take the Captain. Mal fought in a war that he believed in. Not many details are given about this war, but it seems that a group of people (Browncoats) rebelled against a dystopian governing entity. And as noble as their intention were they lost. Not many show start with the "good guys" losing, in fact, not many end this way. But in Firefly's case the loss of this war is the beginning of the story. We start to see who Mal is. As a Captain we assume that he is the wise and unblemished character in the show, but we see something different. While Mal tries to do the right thing and has his ode of honor, he is also troubled and not a force to be reckoned with.
Each character has his or her story and his or her way. They all have something to say and as different as they are they share a common passion for a special kind of justice (perhaps poetic justice?). I finally got the two missing discs and watched the series from start to finish. I was glad I did not see it when it aired. I would have been crushed to see it cancelled as it was. Few shows really get me involved. Firefly was one of them.
It may not a great show for everyone, but for those who are looking for a good and at times unusual story, this is the show to watch. Regards
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ffnogoodnik — 10 years ago(July 18, 2015 03:10 PM)
The airing was irregular and often preempted by a sports event.
This is actually not true AT ALL.
Firefly aired 7 episodes in the 8 weeks from September 20 2002 thru November 15 2002. The only time it was not aired was for a single sporting event on October 11th 2002. After a 2 week hiatus (one of those weeks include Thanksgiving weekend when many shows are preempted) FOX aired four more episodes including 2 episodes on December 20th.
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dreemteam24 — 12 years ago(February 12, 2014 11:12 AM)
I wonder tha same thing myself it's not bad but from what i've watched from all tv series i have watched it has more cheesy elements and it's just okay with the drama stuff maybe it's a cultural thing as a none american i did find the hats moronic but then again all other tv series that i consider good are 4-5 russian criminal series(cop wars,gangland peterburg and others) and one-two american series(breaking bad,nubsg,the shield) in general..
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krisdobo — 12 years ago(February 12, 2014 02:07 PM)
It's a good show, and it does get better as it goes on, but I've never understood why it's so revered. It hints at greatness but never quite reaches it. Maybe if it lasted longer it could have been the show people claim it to be, but not after this soul season. Good, but nothing more in my eyes.