Nomination for Worst Movie of 2003?
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mbusson — 22 years ago(January 03, 2004 07:24 PM)
To assume one does not understand a movie simply because they do not like it is quite pretentious. I rented "The Order" this evening and actually stopped the DVD halfway through because it was so boring. And being a religious scholar who has studied many religions, including Catholicism, I found the movie to have a very shakey plot as well as lacking any real historical accuracy. The first hour was extremely boring and really takes the viewer nowhere. Also, a person can like a movie like Pirates or T3 and still enjoy intellectually stimulating films at the same time, some of my favs include everything from Ghandi and Nixon to LOTR and Star Wars.
Why do so many people who post on the internet argue for the sake of arguing and think that everything is either black or white, A or Bcan't there be a grey area?
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Michael_John — 22 years ago(January 03, 2004 11:05 PM)
From Justin to Kelly is out in 2003, and you have the nerve to vote The Order (a film which raises questions and makes you think about important aspects of life) as a worse film than the Pop Idol horror! If I had a rubber hose I would beat you and then eat some pound cake.
"Soon we'll be free of all thisummRagamaroo"
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LondonOnMyMind — 22 years ago(January 04, 2004 04:02 AM)
There is NO WAY I would vote The Order for one of the worst movies of the year. It was thought-provoking and very different, with gorgeous production design.
LOL, Michael_John, I agree with you on the Pop Idol crapfest that is From Justin to Kelly - can we say cashing in? Besides FJTK, some other movies I would name as candidates for the worst 2003 movie would be:
The Real Cancun (do you call it a movie in the first place? I don't think so)
Gigli (need I say more?)
Jeepers Creepers 2 (the first one had no point whatsoever, I doubt that has changed)
2 Fast 2 Furious (the first one was good, with lots of pure energy, but this one was just recycled)
Underworld (the trailer made it look good; boy, was it ever deceptive)
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olsongus — 22 years ago(January 04, 2004 05:03 PM)
But you guys are forgetting two movies: The Cat in the Hat and House of the Dead!
Heres my list:- Gigli
- Grind/The Real Cancun
- The Cat in the Hat
- From Justin to Kelly
- House of the Dead
I did see "The Order," and frankly, it's pretty bad. I hated it a lot the first time, but the second time I appreciated it a little more (don't ask why. My now ex-girlfriend begged me to watch it with her). I definitely don't think it's THE worst movie of the yearthough I will admit, I did place it on my worst list before seeing it again. If you've heard bad things from me about the movie in the past, I went overboard.
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Addict_on_Life — 22 years ago(January 06, 2004 10:50 PM)
I agree with you that it is pretentious to say that a person did not understand a film simply because they did not like it. But you realize that many of the complaints posted about this film are based upon certain elements of the plot that have to be interpereted in order to be understood or enjoyed. Therefore it is certain that some of the people who do not like the film did understand it and still did not like it, such as a scholar like yourself, but many films with layered plots are misanalyzed or simply not analyzed at all and people are left either confused or just bored.
PS. I definetly agree with you on the grey area point. -
amelian — 22 years ago(January 15, 2004 06:14 PM)
In reply to mbusson: Finally, someone with some sense. I have never posted on this site, but I read posts, and they are often so juvenile.
I watched The Order a couple of weeks ago, and I wasn't impressed. I know nothing of its historical value, but the ideas presented in the story were interesting - its a pity they didnt make something better out of it. I found it slow and hard to follow (although the "hard to follow" bit could be chalked up to my wandering attention :S). And Heath Ledger's acting was unfortunate. (forgive me, people who think being hot = being a good actor).
One thing that I never really understood - what is it about the Carolingians (or however its spelled) that makes them so different and scarce? This may be my ignorance of things Catholic speaking.
Thanks
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Bishonen — 22 years ago(January 09, 2004 02:12 PM)
Just saw thisit was pretty bad. Lots of empty theological flailing, flat characters and unconvincing portent. Not surprised it sank.
worst of 2003 (sucky to suckiest)
5. The Order
4. From Justin to Kelly
3. Gigli
2. Charlie's Angels - Full Throttle- House of 1000 Corpses
"The Real Cancun" somehow deserves its own category
- House of 1000 Corpses
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Loosecannon76 — 22 years ago(January 14, 2004 12:05 PM)
Just what exaclty were you hoping to find when seeing this movie? In a world where every movie is over the top with explosives,in your faceaction and glamour shots of greased down celebrity, this movie was a sigh of relief for me. It had a nice late 70's quality, "Just tell the story in a beautiful setting and decent acting. (Ledger) It sounds like you had no reason to watch this picture.
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CitizenKiryu — 22 years ago(January 15, 2004 09:36 PM)
I just watched this movie tonight, and I have to say, it's really bad. I wanted it to be good, I truly did. I enjoy watching movies about religion and religious conspiracies. But this onewhewit was just way below other favorites like Stigmata and The Exorcist.
To me, it isn't a good sign when the jokes from my best friend and I start flying a mere few minutes into a movie. The best laugh being, of course, when Thomas broke the lock with his crucifix. That was just silly to me.
In the end, too much was left unexplained and the audience was forced to accept too many things without question. That is shoddy filmmaking. End of story. -