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    WarrenPeace — 1 year ago(November 26, 2024 06:16 AM)

    While they increase prices that will be passed onto the consumer.
    It happened before with Turd Lump and it will happen again should he do it.
    Did the Trump tariffs lower prices for American consumers?
    By Gabriel DeLuca Vinocur·November 14, 2024
    No
    The 2018-19 tariffs increased prices for both imported and domestically produced goods.
    The tariffs required U.S. companies to pay an additional fee to import many foreign goods. Some companies passed on these fees to consumers by raising retail prices. Domestic producers responded by raising the prices of their own goods, which became artificially more competitive.
    The U.S. International Trade Commission found that in 2021, the tariffs increased prices between 1.7% and 7.1% in the ten most affected sectors. These include apparel, car parts, furniture, and computer equipment.
    The Biden Administration has kept or increased the majority of Trump’s tariffs, particularly on China, citing continued unfair trading practices.
    President-elect Trump has proposed a 10% tariff on all U.S. imports and a 60% tariff on Chinese goods. The Yale Budget Lab estimates consumer prices would rise by 1.4% to 5.1% with a cost per household of $1,900 to $7,600.
    https://econofact.org/factbrief/did-the-trump-tariffs-lower-prices-for-american-consumers
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      MovieManCin2 — 1 year ago(November 26, 2024 07:07 AM)

      Bullshit and fake news, cesm!
      It won't happen because the offending countries will get their fecal matter aggregated, and stop either cheating in trade or letting illegal aliens into their countries. The tariffs are a bargaining chip. Further more, this will bring companies back to the USA creating thousands of new jobs to help the economy. Are you really that ignorant?
      And btw, the stock market agrees as the Dow hit
      44,736.57
      today, a
      new all time high
      . And
      59%
      of the American People approve of the job Trump is doing on the transition.
      Meanwhile, please enjoy more NFL Players doing
      the Trump Dance!
      😆 😆 😆 😆 😆
      MAGA! FAFO! 😎 Schrodinger's Cat walks into a bar, and doesn't. 😎 Dumbocraps: evil people who celebrate murder. 😠

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        WarrenPeace — 1 year ago(November 26, 2024 06:46 PM)

        The tariffs Trump has proposed would likely have a far broader and more negative effect on the economy. They would almost certainly lead to an immediate increase in prices. They could also spark a trade war in which the US and its trading partners enact tit-for-tat policies to damage each other’s economies.
        Monday evening, Trump threatened to slap 25 percent tariffs on goods imported from Mexico and Canada “until such time as Drugs, in particular Fentanyl, and all Illegal Aliens stop this Invasion of our Country!” (The realities of fentanyl trafficking and migrant flows are more complicated than Trump’s post suggests.) Trump has previously proposed tariffs of up to 60 percent on goods imported from China and has suggested smaller tariffs, 10 to 20 percent, on goods imported from other trading partners like the European Union.
        Trump’s tariffs, if enacted, are a recipe for inflation, according to economists. Right now, importers are reliant on the availability of cheap, foreign-made products, particularly from China. If they can’t find equally cheap, high-quality alternatives, prices will rise. Any policy to mitigate the effects of that could take several years to have an effect.
        In a second term, Trump and his team seem poised to use tariffs as a threat, no matter the consequences for US consumers and businesses.
        https://www.vox.com/commerce/387800/trump-tariffs-inflation-economy-china-global-trade
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          MovieManCin2 — 1 year ago(November 26, 2024 11:16 PM)

          Bullshit, cesm! They are tools to get other countries to stop being ASSHOLES! Wise up! And besides,
          prices are already coming down:
          MAGA! FAFO! 😎 Schrodinger's Cat walks into a bar, and doesn't. 😎 Dumbocraps: evil people who celebrate murder. 😠

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            WarrenPeace — 1 year ago(November 27, 2024 06:57 AM)

            If this was true,
            They are tools to get other countries to stop being ASSHOLES!
            Then how can that work when the costs of tariffs are just simply passed onto the consumer?
            Tariffs hurt no one but us.
            The consumers.
            Unless or until you show me proof with an article that backs up your claims that tariffs somehow bring prices down, you are full of ****.
            I showed how they did not work last time Turd Lump was president and how they won't work again.
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                WarrenPeace — 1 year ago(November 27, 2024 07:41 AM)

                I will if you pay for all of my moving expenses.
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                  MovieManCin2 — 1 year ago(December 02, 2024 04:05 AM)

                  That is not true. Once again you have demonstrated your woeful lack of understanding about tariffs, international relationships and bargaining.
                  MAGA! FAFO! 😎 Schrodinger's Cat walks into a bar, and doesn't. 😎 Dumbocraps: evil people who celebrate murder. 😠

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                    WarrenPeace — 1 year ago(December 02, 2024 05:21 AM)

                    Why should anyone feel like bargaining when all they have to do is pass the cost onto the consumer?
                    I hope you are right and I won't mind being proven wrong.
                    We'll just have to wait and see what happens and how this plays out.
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                      MovieManCin2 — 1 year ago(December 02, 2024 05:46 AM)

                      You have
                      NO idea
                      how bargaining or international negotiations work or
                      The Art of The Deal.
                      And yes, I AM right! I know that because President Trump did such a
                      spectacular job
                      in his first term. Then Dementia Joe and Kuntrag came along and destroyed everything. That's why she and Tampon Tim
                      (aka Elmer Fudd)
                      LOST!
                      MAGA! FAFO! 😎 Schrodinger's Cat walks into a bar, and doesn't. 😎 Dumbocraps: evil people who celebrate murder. 😠

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                        WarrenPeace — 1 year ago(December 02, 2024 06:27 AM)

                        You have NO idea how bargaining or international negotiations work
                        You're right.
                        I don't.
                        Feel free to explain it to me or show me how it worked to the contrary of this in Turd Lump's first term where his tariffs raised prices and AFAIK there was no bargaining or "Art of the Deal," that resulted from them.
                        Did the Trump tariffs lower prices for American consumers?
                        No
                        The 2018-19 tariffs increased prices for both imported and domestically produced goods.
                        The tariffs required U.S. companies to pay an additional fee to import many foreign goods. Some companies passed on these fees to consumers by raising retail prices.
                        https://econofact.org/factbrief/did-the-trump-tariffs-lower-prices-for-american-consumers
                        If you don't have any counterpoint to prove you right then you're just trolling as you always do.
                        Then Dementia Joe and Kuntrag came along and destroyed everything
                        How so?
                        Again show me with proof and not just your crackpot trolling opinions.
                        That's why she and Tampon Tim (aka Elmer Fudd) LOST!
                        Among the many reasons they lost is because of the lies and wrongful blame Turd Lump kept throwing at them to fool you into not realizing that inflation is slowing down prob. because of the work Biden did for that.
                        Turd Lump is actually getting a pretty decent economy just like last time.
                        If he carries through with his tariff and mass deportation plans then expect it to get ****ed up.
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                          MovieManCin2 — 1 year ago(December 02, 2024 06:51 AM)

                          On certain subjects, like this one, you are
                          a deluded moron
                          .
                          MAGA! FAFO! 😎 Schrodinger's Cat walks into a bar, and doesn't. 😎 Dumbocraps: evil people who celebrate murder. 😠

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                            WarrenPeace — 1 year ago(December 02, 2024 06:53 AM)

                            Just more trolling from the crackpot who knows nothing.
                            Maybe I should start calling you Sgt. Schultz or just SS since we do have a fascist about to be "president" again.
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                              MovieManCin2 — 1 year ago(December 02, 2024 07:17 AM)

                              WarrenPeace said...
                              Just more trolling from the crackpot who knows nothing.
                              Maybe I should start calling you Sgt. Schultz or just SS since we do have a fascist about to be "president" again.
                              You Leftards rant and rave about Trump being a Fascist and Hitler. Please give me one example of his fascism,
                              Just one.
                              Kuntrag and Tampon's insane rants about that are one of the main reasons they
                              lost in a landslide,
                              . They couldn't run on her record, because it was TERRIBLE! All they had was
                              "Orange Man Bad",
                              and Trump supporters are all racist, fascist, evil and
                              "garbage".
                              You ****ing Leftard morons have STILL not learned that you denigrate
                              your opponent
                              NOT the voters! You've been doing it since Crooked Hillary and her
                              "deplorables"
                              crack.
                              The other main reason was her HORRIBLE administration, where we had a terrible economy, runaway inflation, the worst border crisis in our history, rampant crime, woke and DEI nonsense, and the
                              debacle
                              of the withdrawal from Afghanistan.
                              They concentrated on issues that Americans
                              don't give a **** about
                              , like LGBT and sex changes for illegal aliens.
                              Dayum, you're DUMB!
                              MAGA! FAFO! 😎 Schrodinger's Cat walks into a bar, and doesn't. 😎 Dumbocraps: evil people who celebrate murder. 😠

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                                WarrenPeace — 1 year ago(December 02, 2024 06:53 PM)

                                MovieManCin2 said...
                                You Leftards rant and rave about Trump being a Fascist and Hitler. Please give me one example of his fascism,
                                Just one.
                                Kuntrag and Tampon's insane rants about that are one of the main reasons they
                                lost in a landslide,
                                . They couldn't run on her record, because it was TERRIBLE! All they had was
                                "Orange Man Bad",
                                and Trump supporters are all racist, fascist, evil and
                                "garbage".
                                You fucking Leftard morons have STILL not learned that you denigrate
                                your opponent
                                NOT the voters! You've been doing it since Crooked Hillary and her
                                "deplorables"
                                crack.
                                The other main reason was her HORRIBLE administration, where we had a terrible economy, runaway inflation, the worst border crisis in our history, rampant crime, woke and DEI nonsense, and the
                                debacle
                                of the withdrawal from Afghanistan.
                                They concentrated on issues that Americans
                                don't give a shit about
                                , like LGBT and sex changes for illegal aliens.
                                Dayum, you're DUMB!
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                                You Leftards rant and rave about Trump being a Fascist and Hitler. Please give me one example of his fascism, Just one.
                                Not accepting the results of the 2020 election and never conceding that he lost fair and square and tried to influence Georgia into creating votes for him and of course the insurrection/coup attempt, which he encouraged, on Jan 6th and trying to get Pence to ignore the laws and Constitution to call the election for them instead of Biden.
                                Kuntrag and Tampon's insane rants about that are one of the main reasons they lost in a landslide,. They couldn't run on her record, because it was TERRIBLE! All they had was "Orange Man Bad", and Trump supporters are all racist, fascist, evil and "garbage".
                                You ****ing Leftard morons have STILL not learned that you denigrate your opponent NOT the voters! You've been doing it since Crooked Hillary and her "deplorables" crack.
                                Not much disagreement from me on that.
                                Kamala, a DEI hire who got her start on the political ladder by dating an influential SF/Cal. politician and was a primary loser, was then being gaslighted onto us should not have been the Dems. pick.
                                Instead of attacking Trump, and of course the voters which was a dumb move, to give her a better chance she should have showed how the economy is actually pretty good.
                                With just days before Election Day, the U.S. just got its latest economic report card — and it's good, even if many people don't feel that way.
                                The U.S. economy grew at a solid annual rate of 2.8% in July, August and September, with consumer spending leading the way, according to the Commerce Department on Wednesday.
                                https://www.npr.org/2024/10/30/nx-s1-5165466/economy-gdp-inflation-consumer-spending-sentiment#:~:text=Trump's Terms-,The U.S. economy is growing solidly.,of mind for many voters
                                .
                                What the Dems. should have done was run someone else and hired better campaign strategists to give them a better chance and to have that candidate separate themselves from Biden even at the risk of alienating donors and the party.
                                The other main reason was her HORRIBLE administration, where we had a terrible economy, runaway inflation, the worst border crisis in our history, rampant crime, woke and DEI nonsense, and the debacle of the withdrawal from Afghanistan.
                                Yeah, every president will always do things that others don't like.
                                I dunno if Biden really has much different of a dirty laundry list than anyone else.
                                Including Turd Lump who made sure we were number one in Covid cases and deaths.
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                                  Yermom_Is_God — 1 year ago(December 02, 2024 07:33 PM)

                                  WarrenPeace said...
                                  You Leftards rant and rave about Trump being a Fascist and Hitler. Please give me one example of his fascism, Just one.
                                  Not accepting the results of the 2020 election and never conceding that he lost fair and square and tried to influence Georgia into creating votes for him and of course the insurrection/coup attempt, which he encouraged, on Jan 6th and trying to get Pence to ignore the laws and Constitution to call the election for them instead of Biden.
                                  Kuntrag and Tampon's insane rants about that are one of the main reasons they lost in a landslide,. They couldn't run on her record, because it was TERRIBLE! All they had was "Orange Man Bad", and Trump supporters are all racist, fascist, evil and "garbage".
                                  You fucking Leftard morons have STILL not learned that you denigrate your opponent NOT the voters! You've been doing it since Crooked Hillary and her "deplorables" crack.
                                  Not much disagreement from me on that.
                                  Kamala, a DEI hire who got her start on the political ladder by dating an influential SF/Cal. politician and was a primary loser, was then being gaslighted onto us should not have been the Dems. pick.
                                  Instead of attacking Trump, and of course the voters which was a dumb move, to give her a better chance she should have showed how the economy is actually pretty good.
                                  With just days before Election Day, the U.S. just got its latest economic report card — and it's good, even if many people don't feel that way.
                                  The U.S. economy grew at a solid annual rate of 2.8% in July, August and September, with consumer spending leading the way, according to the Commerce Department on Wednesday.
                                  https://www.npr.org/2024/10/30/nx-s1-5165466/economy-gdp-inflation-consumer-spending-sentiment#:~:text=Trump's Terms-,The U.S. economy is growing solidly.,of mind for many voters
                                  .
                                  What the Dems. should have done was run someone else and hired better campaign strategists to give them a better chance and to have that candidate separate themselves from Biden even at the risk of alienating donors and the party.
                                  The other main reason was her HORRIBLE administration, where we had a terrible economy, runaway inflation, the worst border crisis in our history, rampant crime, woke and DEI nonsense, and the debacle of the withdrawal from Afghanistan.
                                  Yeah, every president will always do things that others don't like.
                                  I dunno if Biden really has much different of a dirty laundry list than anyone else.
                                  Including Turd Lump who made sure we were number one in Covid cases and deaths.
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                                  No insurrection, no coup. A riot happened, one that he did not encourage.
                                  Including Turd Lump who made sure we were number one in Covid cases and deaths.
                                  For sure, because it was Trump who forced Cuomo and Murphy and Wolf and Newsom and Whitmer to shove infected into nursing homes. This narrative is so stupid and dishonest and lacks any form of common sense.
                                  "I am Kamala Harris, my pronouns are she and her, and I am a woman sitting at the table wearing a blue suit." -A fucking idiot

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                                    WarrenPeace — 1 year ago(December 02, 2024 09:23 PM)

                                    Yermom_Is_God said...
                                    No insurrection, no coup. A riot happened, one that he did not encourage.
                                    Including Turd Lump who made sure we were number one in Covid cases and deaths.
                                    For sure, because it was Trump who forced Cuomo and Murphy and Wolf and Newsom and Whitmer to shove infected into nursing homes. This narrative is so stupid and dishonest and lacks any form of common sense.
                                    Call it what you will.
                                    It was a disruptive action that stopped the count with the intention of the Trumptards wanting to change the results.
                                    I do think the Dems made it into a bigger deal than it really could have been.
                                    "Our democracy was at stake and almost destroyed! Some guy put his foot on Pelosi's desk and stole a memo from her office!"
                                    Um.. So what?
                                    Your confirmation of the EC just got interrupted for a couple hours.
                                    Big deal.
                                    It will be interesting to see what, if anything, happens during the upcoming Jan 6th.
                                    Will there be tighter security ordered by Biden as there should have been which Trump or someone in his admin. did not order?
                                    "Relax. It's white Trumpers and not BLM. They are OK. Tell the white cops to hold the doors open for them and to pose for selfies."
                                    Will libs even show up to protest and if so how bad will it get?
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                                      Yermom_Is_God — 1 year ago(December 02, 2024 09:39 PM)

                                      WarrenPeace said...
                                      Call it what you will.
                                      It was a disruptive action that stopped the count with the intention of the Trumptards wanting to change the results.
                                      I do think the Dems made it into a bigger deal than it really could have been.
                                      "Our democracy was at stake and almost destroyed! Some guy put his foot on Pelosi's desk and stole a memo from her office!"
                                      Um.. So what?
                                      Your confirmation of the EC just got interrupted for a couple hours.
                                      Big deal.
                                      It will be interesting to see what, if anything, happens during the upcoming Jan 6th.
                                      Will there be tighter security ordered by Biden as there should have been which Trump or someone in his admin. did not order?
                                      "Relax. It's white Trumpers and not BLM. They are OK. Tell the white cops to hold the doors open for them and to pose for selfies."
                                      Will libs even show up to protest and if so how bad will it get?
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                                      Pelosi shot down additional security and they opened the doors and let these people in in order to push the January 6th narrative and try and make it near illegal to question the results of the election.
                                      "I am Kamala Harris, my pronouns are she and her, and I am a woman sitting at the table wearing a blue suit." -A fucking idiot

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                                        MovieManCin2 — 1 year ago(December 03, 2024 04:33 AM)

                                        WarrenPeace said...
                                        You Leftards rant and rave about Trump being a Fascist and Hitler. Please give me one example of his fascism, Just one.
                                        Not accepting the results of the 2020 election and never conceding that he lost fair and square and tried to influence Georgia into creating votes for him and of course the insurrection/coup attempt, which he encouraged, on Jan 6th and trying to get Pence to ignore the laws and Constitution to call the election for them instead of Biden.
                                        Kuntrag and Tampon's insane rants about that are one of the main reasons they lost in a landslide,. They couldn't run on her record, because it was TERRIBLE! All they had was "Orange Man Bad", and Trump supporters are all racist, fascist, evil and "garbage".
                                        You fucking Leftard morons have STILL not learned that you denigrate your opponent NOT the voters! You've been doing it since Crooked Hillary and her "deplorables" crack.
                                        Not much disagreement from me on that.
                                        Kamala, a DEI hire who got her start on the political ladder by dating an influential SF/Cal. politician and was a primary loser, was then being gaslighted onto us should not have been the Dems. pick.
                                        Instead of attacking Trump, and of course the voters which was a dumb move, to give her a better chance she should have showed how the economy is actually pretty good.
                                        With just days before Election Day, the U.S. just got its latest economic report card — and it's good, even if many people don't feel that way.
                                        The U.S. economy grew at a solid annual rate of 2.8% in July, August and September, with consumer spending leading the way, according to the Commerce Department on Wednesday.
                                        https://www.npr.org/2024/10/30/nx-s1-5165466/economy-gdp-inflation-consumer-spending-sentiment#:~:text=Trump's Terms-,The U.S. economy is growing solidly.,of mind for many voters
                                        .
                                        What the Dems. should have done was run someone else and hired better campaign strategists to give them a better chance and to have that candidate separate themselves from Biden even at the risk of alienating donors and the party.
                                        The other main reason was her HORRIBLE administration, where we had a terrible economy, runaway inflation, the worst border crisis in our history, rampant crime, woke and DEI nonsense, and the debacle of the withdrawal from Afghanistan.
                                        Yeah, every president will always do things that others don't like.
                                        I dunno if Biden really has much different of a dirty laundry list than anyone else.
                                        Including Turd Lump who made sure we were number one in Covid cases and deaths.
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                                        Good to see you're smart enough to agree with me on the stupidity of the Kuntrag/Tampon campaign. And as to covid, that was NOT Trump's fault. He just happened to be the President when it was at its worse stage.
                                        Nobody
                                        could have done better.
                                        MAGA! FAFO! 😎 Schrodinger's Cat walks into a bar, and doesn't. 😎 Dumbocraps: evil people who celebrate murder. 😠

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                                          MovieManCin2 — 1 year ago(November 24, 2024 04:41 PM)

                                          BTW, I have to compliment you. You're the only Leftard troll who's not in hiding.
                                          MAGA! FAFO! 😎 Schrodinger's Cat walks into a bar, and doesn't. 😎 Dumbocraps: evil people who celebrate murder. 😠

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