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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Ju-on: The Curse
chris_leinster — 18 years ago(March 20, 2008 03:24 AM)
Hello gang,
I wonder if any of you lovely people can help me?!
I'm writing my dissertation at the moment on Japanese and American cultural interactions and obviously the large number of American remakes of Japanese horror films is something I want to discuss. I've recently hit a bit of a problem though I watched the Japanese "The Grudge" on DVD a few months ago, then last night I watched the American version Coming on IMDB has confused me a little. The Grudge (2004) says it is a remake of Ju-On: The Grudge (2003). However it seems to have plot elements from Ju-On (2000). I'm assuming that the remake is a mixture of these 2 films? The ghostly school girls didn't appear in this one, but there was the Bill Pullman teacher character who I don't remember from the version I watched.
Can anyone help just clear things up for me a bit!?
Cheers!
Chris
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XResidentXEvilX — 17 years ago(May 24, 2008 02:14 AM)
Yeah I'm a little confused about this whole remake thing now. I thought I knew but now i'm lost. I thought you were confused about the order but now that I look at both Ju-Oh (2000) and Ju-Oh (2003) they both sound like The Grudge but i'm watching Ju-Oh (2003) with Rika as the lead and it's basically just like the Remake.
I just did my research this is what I've come up with for the 2000 version of Ju-On:
"Writer/director Takashi Shimizu's Ju-on (The Grudge) originally aired on Japanese television, and eventually developed a worldwide cult following as a low-budget horror classic. Shimizu went on to make an extended version of the movie, misleadingly titled Ju-on 2, and a big-budget film based on the original video. Ju-on is a series of vignettes about a curse that passes on from one aggrieved dead person to the next. Kobayashi (Yuurei Yanagi), a young teacher with a pregnant wife, goes to visit the home of Toshio (Ryta Koyama), a boy who's been missing from his class. He finds the house a wreck, and the boy alone and seemingly traumatized. The story then makes a temporal leap, as we find a teenager, Yuki (Hitomi Miwa), at the same house, studying with her classmate, Kanna (Asumi Miwa), who lives there with her brother, Tsuyoshi (Kazushi And), and their mother, Noriko (Yumi Yoshiyuki). Yuki has some kind of phobia about cats. Kanna remembers that she forgot to feed the rabbits at school, and rushes off, leaving Yuki. A cat wanders into the room and frightens Yuki into the closet. She hears a rattling noise coming from the crawlspace over the closet, and ill-advisedly takes a look up there. Mizuho (Chiaki Kuriyama), Tsuyoshi's girlfriend, goes looking for him at the school, where she runs into a ghostly Toshio, mewling like a cat, and meets a gruesome fate. Noriko returns home to an empty house. Kanna soon comes home, but she'schanged. The film then cuts back to Kobayashi, as he discovers the gruesome fate of Toshio's mother, an old schoolmate of his, and also finds out about his own surprising link to the strange boy. The story ends with Kyko (Yko Daike), a woman with psychic powers who is helping her brother sell the cursed house. "
This is what it says about the 2003 version:
"Directed by Takashi Shimizu, The Grudge follows volunteer homecare worker Rika Nishida (Megumi Okina), whose altruism leads her to Chiharu (Yui Ichikawa), a catatonic old woman slowly dying in a home filled with years worth of accumulated filth. Rika's suspicion is aroused when, during the course of her volunteer duties, she can't help but sense an overwhelming feeling of dread. Eventually, Rika opens an old wardrobe only to discover a malevolent boy who introduces himself as Toshio (Yuya Ozeki). It seems as though the house was formerly occupied by a young couple Katsuya (Kanji Tsuda), Chiharu's son, and his wife, Kazumi (Risa Matsuda). Sadly, Kazumi was killed thanks to Toshio shortly after moving in, and it wasn't long before Katsuya met a similar fate. When one of Rika's colleagues alerts the local authorities, an investigation turns the house inside out and exposes an ancient and deadly history."
I have a feeling that what the director of the Japanese Grudge's did w/ the American grudge was put a story within a story you know what I mean? Don't forget he did use the boy and wife from the 2003 version in the 2004 American version -
BulmaPunkRocker — 11 years ago(August 31, 2014 11:20 PM)
Easy answer: the remake for northamerican audiences is a remake of JU-ON (2003). This is the first Ju-On movie (2000), straight to video. There's 2 short movies from 1998, if you are a fan. After this, you got JU-ON 2 (2000) and then the film with the same tittle as this one, but from 2003. It's like the "third part".
I know it's confusing, because of the same name, but you just have to look up for the dates
Please excuse my terrible redaction, english is not my native language.