Age difference wrecked it for me.
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ex250 — 9 years ago(June 28, 2016 03:29 PM)
Can I give you another scenario?
What if the movie is really about a man who has a near death experience and meets his wife Lydia as she was two years into their twenty-five year marriage except that he is nothing more than a famous movie star to her. In this near death experience, Bob learns how unhappy and lonely his career has made her to the point that his wife has had enough and is ready to divorce him if he doesn't retire from his lucrative acting career.
Bob doesn't want to retire because he still loves making an incredible amount of money to be pampered in five-star hotels and doted on by press agents and company executives who will send beautiful young prostitutes to his room for free. Dire Straits said it best, "Money for nothing and your chicks for free."
To Bob's chagrin he discovers that everything in his near death experience has been reversed. There are a few positives: his wife now respects his career and has virtually unlimited time to spend with him while he relives his younger days partying with her because there are no children yet to occupy her time.
However, Bob finds that the reversal of his situation has surprising consequences in his work. His wife may be in her early twenties again but the cute young prostitute has been turned into a middle-aged woman. The commercial director doesn't respect or appreciate him and yells at him disapprovingly. The press agents ask him to do things that he doesn't want to do. The photographer asks him to be somebody else and insults him. And his wife is married to someone else so he can't be with her anymore. In short, Bob's marriage and his career have switched places.
During the events of Bob's near-death experience he comes to see how miserable his wife was before she became a mother and how being a mother has fulfilled her, except that she's desperately lonely and is prepared to divorce him. Bob must make a choice: retire from his career and devote himself to his family or lose them forever.
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cbfan41 — 9 years ago(August 22, 2016 04:15 PM)
While I agree death might be too strong of a word, the OP was very misinformed. The main characters were never "in love". They grew to love each other by the end but they never felt romantic feelings towards each other except maybe Bob lusting after Charlotte (he is a guy after all!). Plus Charlotte clearly wasn't seventeen despite what Scarlett's age during filming. She was a recent college graduate making her around 22-23 years old.
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cbfan41 — 9 years ago(August 23, 2016 12:19 PM)
Oh there is no doubt Bob was attracted to Charlotte, who wouldn't it be? But there is a universe difference between having a attraction to someone and trying to act on them. Plus I think Bob as time went on saw her as really a little sister then even a daughter.
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Jennie_Portrait — 9 years ago(August 28, 2016 07:37 PM)
Agree. Bob felt loving and protective towards Charlotte. I love the scene where he carries her in his arms to her hotel room. He tucks her in and says good night. It's kind, loving and completely non-sexual.
This film is enormously touching. One of the reasons I like it so much is that their relationship remains unconsumated. To me this is realistic and adult.
Never say never
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Storywatcher — 9 years ago(October 11, 2016 12:10 PM)
If you had understood the real relationship between them you wouldn't confuse love with sexual attraction. If what you said were true I would assume you thought "Leon, the professional" was about a pedophile hitman _.
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getmeout — 9 years ago(October 11, 2016 05:23 PM)
No, I don't confuse love with sexual attraction. I don't think that about Leon in The Professional either. They are two totally different types of relationships. Lost in translation seems like some creepy old man's fantasy. IMO
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olicoates — 9 years ago(October 13, 2016 12:35 AM)
I think you missed a lot of subtext and symbolism here Getmeout which possibly meant you ddint quite get what sophia was showing - but again that's my opinion. it could be argued that the gratuitous "butt shot" at the beginning skewed the viewer into making Scarlet an object of desire and distorting how we then watched her interact with Murray .or did sophia do that for precisely that reason ???
thats what makes this a brilliant film .sorry if you didnt get it.
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getmeout — 9 years ago(October 13, 2016 01:40 AM)
Oh.a butt shot made it a brilliant movie? Sophia C. is such a joke. If it weren't for her father she would be waiting tables. I get it, trust me. She needed some sort of controversy, albeit minor, to make this movie relevant. Why else cast a 17 year old? I'm assuming the ass shot was a body double; irregardless, it's a cheap trick to put wind in the sails of a weak film who's target audience was older men or fans of her father's works.
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olicoates — 9 years ago(October 13, 2016 01:56 AM)
OMG just change your name to Troll - sorry you just don't get subtext; I was implying that sophia threw scenes in to make you question motives feelings and how we judge characters. Next time I correct your imbecilic rantings i will do a bullet point presentation, so you understand. I actually think the butt shot wasn't needed but of course everyone immediately starts making assumptions about what a character is like..and is then forced to address if they feel differently about an individual character- was she really considering committing adultery ? how did she really feel about murray.
He clearly was capable of adultery but chose to refrain with Scarlett
How about you look up from your iphone 5 occasionally when you watch a film you then criticise.