https://www.biblegateway.com/devotionals/standing-strong-through-the-storm/today
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mamu2 — 9 years ago(December 12, 2016 08:05 AM)
The LORD confides in those who fear him;
The fear aspect is what is troubling. Why should we love something that wants us to fear it?
We are to stay in the first grade, grateful to Jesus, repentant for our sins, expectant of his coming. Dont graduate or youll leave the basics behind.
Remaining stagnant isn't really a good thing though. Learning and expanding your knowledge at the expense of faith is a risk people take, but one that some religions aren't willing to encourage in its adherents. -
marty-130-840283 — 9 years ago(December 12, 2016 11:07 PM)
hi Mamu, does this answer your question:
https://gotquestions.org/fear-God.html
Question: "What does it mean to have the fear of God?"
Answer: For the unbeliever, the fear of God is the fear of the judgment of God and eternal death, which is eternal separation from God (Luke 12:5; Hebrews 10:31). For the believer, the fear of God is something much different. The believer's fear is reverence of God. Hebrews 12:28-29 is a good description of this: Therefore, since we are receiving a kingdom that cannot be shaken, let us be thankful, and so worship God acceptably with reverence and awe, for our God is a consuming fire. This reverence and awe is exactly what the fear of God means for Christians. This is the motivating factor for us to surrender to the Creator of the Universe.
Proverbs 1:7 declares, The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge. Until we understand who God is and develop a reverential fear of Him, we cannot have true wisdom. True wisdom comes only from understanding who God is and that He is holy, just, and righteous. Deuteronomy 10:12, 20-21 records, And now, O Israel, what does the LORD your God ask of you but to fear the LORD your God, to walk in all his ways, to love him, to serve the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul. Fear the LORD your God and serve him. Hold fast to him and take your oaths in his name. He is your praise; he is your God, who performed for you those great and awesome wonders you saw with your own eyes. The fear of God is the basis for our walking in His ways, serving Him, and, yes, loving Him.
Some redefine the fear of God for believers to respecting Him. While respect is definitely included in the concept of fearing God, there is more to it than that. A biblical fear of God, for the believer, includes understanding how much God hates sin and fearing His judgment on sineven in the life of a believer. Hebrews 12:5-11 describes Gods discipline of the believer. While it is done in love (Hebrews 12:6), it is still a fearful thing. As children, the fear of discipline from our parents no doubt prevented some evil actions. The same should be true in our relationship with God. We should fear His discipline, and therefore seek to live our lives in such a way that pleases Him.
Believers are not to be scared of God. We have no reason to be scared of Him. We have His promise that nothing can separate us from His love (Romans 8:38-39). We have His promise that He will never leave us or forsake us (Hebrews 13:5). Fearing God means having such a reverence for Him that it has a great impact on the way we live our lives. The fear of God is respecting Him, obeying Him, submitting to His discipline, and worshipping Him in awe. -
uther8 — 9 years ago(December 13, 2016 01:33 AM)
We have His promise that nothing can separate us from His love (Romans 8:38-39)
We have His promise that He will never leave us or forsake us (Hebrews 13:5).
So hell is just a playground then?
The fear of God is respecting Him, obeying Him, submitting to His discipline, and worshipping Him in awe.
Sounds like God is Donald Trump.
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Rumble_McSkirmish — 9 years ago(December 13, 2016 05:53 AM)
We have His promise that nothing can separate us from His love (Romans 8:38-39)
We have His promise that He will never leave us or forsake us (Hebrews 13:5).
Yeah, quite frankly the bible lies. God's love is entirely dependent on whether you kiss his feet through your mortal life. Either that or god is a really messed up sadist, which I could buy also.he does seem to have quite a few aneurysms throughout his recorded centuries.
The fear of God is respecting Him, obeying Him, submitting to His discipline, and worshipping Him in awe
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mamu2 — 9 years ago(December 13, 2016 07:01 AM)
This reverence and awe is exactly what the fear of God means for Christians.
Believers are not to be scared of God. We have no reason to be scared of Him
Except the Bible tells us to fear God as a slave would fear a cruel and wicked master. Even to tremble in fear. Slaves do not revere or love a cruel slave owner. They fear them because, as their owners, they are entitled to beat them and treat them harshly.
1 Peter 2:18-21 "Slaves, in reverent fear of God submit yourselves to your masters, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh. For it is commendable if someone bears up under the pain of unjust suffering because they are conscious of God. But how is it to your credit if you receive a beating for doing wrong and endure it? But if you suffer for doing good and you endure it, this is commendable before God. To this you were called, because Christ suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in his steps.
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Navaros — 9 years ago(February 01, 2017 09:52 AM)
I find that abhorrent and immoral.
Yet you are fine with mass murdering babies via 'abortion' even though
nothing
is more abhorrent and immoral than that.
You mind must be endlessly working out your colossal cognitive dissonance over your hypocrisy of calling other things abhorrent and immoral when you yourself are an advocate for the epitome of abhorrence and immorality.
Moreover, as always, you are taking the verse you quote out of context and claiming is contains meanings which it does not. Your claim that the verse is endorsing slavery is false. What it is actually doing is making the point that one evil should not be repaid with another.
"Science creates fictions to explain facts" Gilman -
AngryNegroMan — 9 years ago(December 22, 2016 02:57 AM)
Jesus isn't God.
Yahusha Jesus:- worshipped God
2)prayed to God - lived for God
- was adopted by God
- never once said "Hey pray to me I'm God" in fact he said in the book of Matthew "When you pray to God in your room/corner" He didn't say "When you pray to me in your corner"
- Said his power came FROM GOD. Just like elijah and all the Prophets like Moses were given power by God to do miraculous things
Don't post links to websites or John 1:1 I've read it all and it's all a way to twist what the Bible actually says. John 1:1 comes from the same gospel that says contrary John 1:45, John 17:1-3 I used to be a trinitarian but have given it up 9 years ago for the TRUTH of there being ONE GOD not a trinity which is pagan
- worshipped God
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marty-130-840283 — 9 years ago(December 24, 2016 12:24 AM)
Jesus isn't God.
Yahusha Jesus:- worshipped God
2)prayed to God - lived for God
- was adopted by God
- never once said "Hey pray to me I'm God" in fact he said in the book of Matthew "When you pray to God in your room/corner" He didn't say "When you pray to me in your corner"
- Said his power came FROM GOD. Just like elijah and all the Prophets like Moses were given power by God to do miraculous things
AngryNegroMan, let me educate you.
God is 1 being, in 3 persons.
- Father
- Son (Jesus)
- Holy Spirit
- worshipped God
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uther8 — 9 years ago(December 24, 2016 05:03 AM)
AngryNegroMan, let me educate you.
Education is not spouting your own personal opinion - address the points raised before you dismiss them with your own opinion.
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mamu2 — 9 years ago(December 27, 2016 07:38 AM)
let me educate you.
God is 1 being, in 3 persons.- Father
- Son (Jesus)
- Holy Spirit
Except you haven't. Angry posted 6 examples derived from the Bible showing how Jesus is not God. You posted a belief without any Biblical evidence to support your claim. That isn't educating.
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marty-130-840283 — 9 years ago(January 01, 2017 07:59 AM)
Except you haven't. Angry posted 6 examples derived from the Bible showing how Jesus is not God. You posted a belief without any Biblical evidence to support your claim. That isn't educating.
Its not my belief. It is what is stated in the Bible.- worshipped God
Jesus obeyed God, not so much worshipped
2)prayed to God
Jesus prayed to his father, being the Holy Trinity (1 God in 3 persons) - lived for God
Lived for, and obeyed his father, being the Holy Trinity (1 God in 3 persons) - was adopted by God
What? - never once said "Hey pray to me I'm God" in fact he said in the book of Matthew "When you pray to God in your room/corner" He didn't say "When you pray to me in your corner"
being the Holy Trinity (1 God in 3 persons) - Said his power came FROM GOD. Just like elijah and all the Prophets like Moses were given power by God to do miraculous things
being the Holy Trinity (1 God in 3 persons)
It seems more detailed education is needed (see below)is this enough to shut you up Mamu?
"What does the Bible teach about the Trinity?"
Answer: The most difficult thing about the Christian concept of the Trinity is that there is no way to perfectly and completely understand it. The Trinity is a concept that is impossible for any human being to fully understand, let alone explain. God is infinitely greater than we are; therefore, we should not expect to be able to fully understand Him. The Bible teaches that the Father is God, that Jesus is God, and that the Holy Spirit is God. The Bible also teaches that there is only one God. Though we can understand some facts about the relationship of the different Persons of the Trinity to one another, ultimately, it is incomprehensible to the human mind. However, this does not mean the Trinity is not true or that it is not based on the teachings of the Bible.
The Trinity is one God existing in three Persons. Understand that this is not in any way suggesting three Gods. Keep in mind when studying this subject that the word Trinity is not found in Scripture. This is a term that is used to attempt to describe the triune Godthree coexistent, co-eternal Persons who make up God. Of real importance is that the concept represented by the word Trinity does exist in Scripture. The following is what Gods Word says about the Trinity: - There is one God (Deuteronomy 6:4; 1 Corinthians 8:4; Galatians 3:20; 1 Timothy 2:5).
- The Trinity consists of three Persons (Genesis 1:1, 26; 3:22; 11:7; Isaiah 6:8, 48:16, 61:1; Matthew 3:16-17, 28:19; 2 Corinthians 13:14). In Genesis 1:1, the Hebrew plural noun "Elohim" is used. In Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7 and Isaiah 6:8, the plural pronoun for us is used. The word "Elohim" and the pronoun us are plural forms, definitely referring in the Hebrew language to more than two. While this is not an explicit argument for the Trinity, it does denote the aspect of plurality in God. The Hebrew word for "God," "Elohim," definitely allows for the Trinity.
In Isaiah 48:16 and 61:1, the Son is speaking while making reference to the Father and the Holy Spirit. Compare Isaiah 61:1 to Luke 4:14-19 to see that it is the Son speaking. Matthew 3:16-17 describes the event of Jesus' baptism. Seen in this passage is God the Holy Spirit descending on God the Son while God the Father proclaims His pleasure in the Son. Matthew 28:19 and 2 Corinthians 13:14 are examples of three distinct Persons in the Trinity. - The members of the Trinity are distinguished one from another in various passages. In the Old Testament, LORD is distinguished from Lord (Genesis 19:24; Hosea 1:4). The LORD has a Son (Psalm 2:7, 12; Proverbs 30:2-4). The Spirit is distinguished from the LORD (Numbers 27:18) and from God (Psalm 51:10-12). God the Son is distinguished from God the Father (Psalm 45:6-7; Hebrews 1:8-9). In the New Testament, Jesus speaks to the Father about sending a Helper, the Holy Spirit (John 14:16-17). This shows that Jesus did not consider Himself to be the Father or the Holy Spirit. Consider also all the other times in the Gospels where Jesus speaks to the Father. Was He speaking to Himself? No. He spoke to another Person in the Trinitythe Father.
- Each member of the Trinity is God. The Father is God (John 6:27; Romans 1:7; 1 Peter 1:2). The Son is God (John 1:1, 14; Romans 9:5; Colossians 2:9; Hebrews 1:8; 1 John 5:20). The Holy Spirit is God (Acts 5:3-4; 1 Corinthians 3:16).
- There is subordination within the Trinity. Scripture shows that the Holy Spirit is subordinate to the Father and the Son, and the Son is subordinate to the Father. This is an internal relationship and does not deny the deity of any Person of the Trinity. This is simply an area which our finite minds cannot understand concerning the infinite God. Concerning the Son see Luke 22:42, John 5:36, John 20:21, and 1 John 4:14. Concerning the Holy Spirit see John 14:16, 14:26, 15:26, 16:7, and especially John 16:13-14.
- The individual members of the Trinity have different tasks. The Father is the ultimate sou
- worshipped God
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raif-1 — 9 years ago(January 01, 2017 02:35 PM)
I think what Mamu was saying all along is letting scripture describe itself and the Bible says that GOD is one, not trinity. All the supposedly trinity verses can be answered by looking at other verses and getting the right context. Only the church teaches trinity which apparently is not biblical.
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uther8 — 9 years ago(January 02, 2017 12:56 AM)
As Raif said:
"GOD is one, not trinity. All the supposedly trinity verses can be answered by looking at other verses and getting the right context. Only the church teaches trinity which apparently is not biblical."
Why do I always have to repeat myself?
Because you're making claims, not stating facts.
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mamu2 — 9 years ago(January 03, 2017 06:19 AM)
If you read the article I just posted, it clearly states this.
The article may state this, but the Bible does not. The article is an opinion piece only, and one not supported by Scripture. This is not considered education.
Again
How can God sit at the right hand of himself?
How can God forsake himself?
Why does God need a God?
How can God know things that God doesn't know?
How can God be greater than himself?
Why would God pray to himself?
It's very clear. Jesus claims to be God's son in the Biblenot God. Big difference. That's why men had to vote on his divinity. That is historical, and something that one can become educated in. -
Navaros — 9 years ago(February 01, 2017 09:59 AM)
It's very clear. Jesus claims to be God's son in the Biblenot God. Big difference.
Actually, no it's not. As always, you are committing dissembly. Your quoted statement is presenting a false dichotomy logical fallacy by saying that "either Jesus is God's son, or Jesus is God.
But your false dichotomy is false.
Jesus is
simultaneously
the Son of God
and
God.
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Navaros — 9 years ago(February 01, 2017 10:04 AM)
what Mamu was saying all alongapparently is not biblical.
raif, if you continue to accept "biblical advice" from ungodly people such as mamu and batasch, who know nothing about the Bible and who lie about its meanings every chance they get, then you will never understand what is or is not biblical. In fact, you will be worse off than ignorance of the Biblebecause you will accept mamu et al.'s lies as "biblical" even though they are anything but.
"Science creates fictions to explain facts" Gilman