Anyone else think this was worse than A Good Day To Die Hard?
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aloep — 12 years ago(January 20, 2014 12:12 PM)
"A Good Day To Die Hard" was completely lacking in plot, characters, dialogue and was utterly stupid, but at least the car chase scene was pretty well shot and all the car wrecks were fun to watch, even if completely inane. Having said that though, Willis seemed like a psychopath who didn't have a care in the world for all the innocent motorists whose lives he was endangering.
However, it was still more entertaining than any of the scenes in "Live Free or Die Hard". A lot of ropey looking CGI in this one, especially the fighter jet scene. -
Ian_Rhethy — 12 years ago(January 22, 2014 03:13 PM)
No, I'd say this film is better than
AGDTDH
and
DH3
.
I can't imagine how anyone would prefer
AGDTDH
. I didn't think it was as bad as people said it was (I give it a 6/10), but
LFoDH
was way better.
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aloep — 12 years ago(February 17, 2014 05:42 AM)
No, I'd say this film is better than AGDTDH and DH3.
I can't imagine how anyone would prefer AGDTDH. I didn't think it was as bad as people said it was (I give it a 6/10), but LFoDH was way better.
And I can't imagine for the life of me how anyone could prefer this to Die Hard 3. -
MadDog-ThrashTillDeath — 12 years ago(February 19, 2014 09:49 AM)
No, I'd say this film is better than AGDTDH and DH3.
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Mr_Argumentative — 11 years ago(April 20, 2014 03:38 AM)
Technically, "Live Free" would probably be considered the better movie of the two. At least during the action scenes you could tell who was chasing whom, and at least they didn't recycle McClane's old audio from "Die Hard 3" and incorporate it in "Live Free." A Good Day feels like a very bad Die Hard movie, whereas "Live Free" feels more like a generic Bruce Willis action movie. Fun, but not a whole lot of depth.
I did enjoy how during a few scenes in "A Good Day" Bruce acted a little more like the McClane from the original trilogy. Too bad the script was such garbage. -
koffeenkreame41-1 — 11 years ago(July 04, 2014 10:29 AM)
Technically, "Live Free" would probably be considered the better movie of the two. At least during the action scenes you could tell who was chasing whom, and at least they didn't recycle McClane's old audio from "Die Hard 3" and incorporate it in "Live Free." A Good Day feels like a very bad Die Hard movie, whereas "Live Free" feels more like a generic Bruce Willis action movie. Fun, but not a whole lot of depth.
I did enjoy how during a few scenes in "A Good Day" Bruce acted a little more like the McClane from the original trilogy. Too bad the script was such garbage.
Couldn't agree more.
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Catgurl22 — 11 years ago(April 27, 2014 05:38 AM)
No way!
AGDTDH was an abomination!!! It was a horrible movie by any standards. Even if it had not been part of the DH franchise, it still is a pretty horrible film. LFODH is oodles better than that travesty.
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oregon-5 — 11 years ago(May 08, 2014 10:28 PM)
For all the love/hate that this film gets. I still feel its better that AGDTDH. Considering that Die Hard 3 was based off a script called "Simon Says' and the film's first hour adheres to that storyline pretty much. Adding McClane to the mix, plus a nod to DH1 was brilliant.
Mr. Argumentative sums it up nicely though. DH4 is a standard Bruce Willis action film masquarading as a Die Hard sequel. -
Steamboy — 11 years ago(June 19, 2014 02:16 PM)
Absolutely! Both are bad but 4.0 was a steaming pile of whatever.
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bluerevenge — 11 years ago(November 23, 2014 07:31 PM)
They were both pretty crap. Should have called the fifth one "Live Free or Die Harder" so we could just erase these in our minds, from the Die Hard franchise as a pair.
But I think this one is worse because it's so unrealistic it's just stupid; on the other hand, AGDTDH is so unrealistic it's just comical. With the fifth one it was more like they were not even taking it seriously and didn't expect anyone else to. So in that regard you watch it and think "okay yeah I get it they've just gone way over the top here whatever, just enjoy the silly action". LFODH though, it's like they try to be serious but it's so far fetched it's just badplain bad.
Definitely don't think the fifth one is good but I'd probably give it a 6 or something because you at least enjoy some of it. This one, I think it gets a solid 4, tops. Two defining moments for me:
AGDTDH: The 'anti-radiation spray'so utterly ridiculous/preposterous it's just laughable.
LFODH: The
light bumping
of a car bumper that's not even running/driving with a tin can garbage can (not even causing deformation to the bumper, never mind crushing the crash sensors or doing anything that would make the accelerometers think it was actually hitting something), setting the airbags off? Then somehow conversing normally with GM's OnStar while the rest of the "satellites" and cell networks are down? So utterly stupid and intelligence-insulting, it makes you want to forget they made this movie. -
Drooch — 11 years ago(December 12, 2014 12:51 AM)
The true enemy of John McClane - more villainous than Hans Gruber, more ruthless than Colonel Stewart, more cynical than Simon G - is Bruce Willis. The man's cells have replaced themselves and turned this Hollywood legend into a lazy, greedy, hateful man whose ego has become a massive, baldheaded wrecking ball that destroys nearly every project that has the misfortune of having to deal with it. Let's see what happened when Fox took that wrecking ball to their most sacred cow, starting with a focus on their latest atrocity
Willis insisted on the 'son' angle for ADTDH, and it's clear to see why - he gets to take a back seat, let someone else do the heavy lifting, but still pick up the fat cheque at the end. Tom Cruise may be mad as a biscuit, but at least he cares about the quality of his Mission Impossible franchise and respects its fans - carefully picking talented directors and encouraging them to flourish artistically and push the boundaries. Willis is the exact opposite. If you love Die Hard, he hates you. Kevin Smith recites a story about a truck driver shouting 'Hey John McClane!' as he drove past the set of Cop Out. Willis told Smith 'I hate the Die Hard fans the most' as he turned and walked away, leaving Smith alone on the roadside.
Willis, a star at 33 thanks to Die Hard, went on to try many different genres and give himself to more risqu projects in the 90's, even having a major part in that cinema re-defining indie classic - Pulp Fiction. How that star has dimmed. Willis readily climbed between the sheets with Fox's worst execs when it came to assembling this shockingly bad film, which genuinely re-defines how atrocious studio filmmaking can actually be. They went about picking a director
When you watch a movie, while being entertained by the events onscreen, one can sense the presence of the storyteller. With Die Hard, John McTiernan's trademark wit, sophistication, artistic integrity and storytelling verve simmers underneath every frame.
With AGDTDH, you can feel the overbearing presence of those greedy Fox executives, lazy Willis, and the special child they plucked from the rankest sewer of Hollywood to direct their abortion of a film - John Moore. A corpulent Irishman whose track record of blandness and zero integrity made him the ideal replacement for the last hack they employed to kill, gut and rape this franchise - Len Wiseman.
Working from Skip Woods' screenplay, which feels like something sketched on a napkin, by an Orangutan, Moore's challenge is to basically distract us from the utter lack of substance or coherence with a 'stylish' aesthetic; and we all know what that means - yep, ridiculous levels of tinting (an ugly bluish/grey this time), unnaturally boosted contrast, and choppy WTF editing. The result is an endless, deranged music video, where there was once storytelling. I've been made to sit through chick flicks with more backbone than this hollow souffl of 'style'. NOTHING connects emotionally.
The moments of restraint in the Die Hard trilogy, which deepen character and relationship, are exactly what give the explosive moments their punch. AGDTDH has no such moments. These wafer-thin cyphers are not real, not human, and so their fates are utterly irrelevant.
McClane suffers the most. As if to make the audience actively dislike the greatest action hero ever, Willis and co. pervert the character into a racist, arrogant jerk. McClane always represented that part of us that does what's right in the face of massive oppressive odds, McTiernan described him as the mouse that gives the finger to the eagle that descends upon him. McClane is now the eagle, albeit a roaring demented one, who tramples over helpless bystanders as he feeds off his emotions. He has become the oppressive force that destroys the innocent, the very people he used to protect. Smacking a Russian man in the face as he steals his car, at one point.
As with DHINO (Die Hard In Name Only/DH4), Fox have retooled McClane into a poster child for the American Right - a flag-waving, fck-stupid, aggressive xenophobe whose greatest virtue, the one that transcends all others is being American. McTiernan must be turning in his cell.
So we have Jai Courtney as Jack McClane driving the film (as his insane father follows, leaving an unnecessary wake of destruction behind him). Courtney's a capable actor, and does what he can with the stink-script that is always working against him. His character is the only thing remotely real, as with Justin Long in DHINO, but that's not enough. His character is unlikeable, stroppy and conceited.
Tonally, the film is a mess. It cannot handle the serious elements, and has no fun with the rest. Die Hard managed to be an utterly engrossing thriller with a joyful tone on top, AGDTDH is a badly made, joyless bore for it's entire mercifully short runtime. Overall, the film is a parasite feeding off the mythology of McClane while excreting xenophobic, idiotic, flag-waving bile of the worst kind. A film t