Why are people calling the sex scene rape?
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filmbo — 19 years ago(March 27, 2007 05:02 PM)
Maybe I was watching the wrong moviebut the narrators dialog at the beginning of the scene (as she was being undressed by Timothy) referred to the fact that Timothy was proceeding with the sexual encounter as would have been expected of a man and woman during an earlier time [with the handkerchief on the woman's face]. Grace, being the progressive woman that she is, would under normal circumstances not have accepted that mode. But since she desired to have sex with Timothy, she put aside her personal feelings to be sexually satisfied. And the scream at the end would be the culmination of her orgasm.
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catrina604 — 18 years ago(May 11, 2007 09:38 PM)
That scene was very hot to me.
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YoMother — 18 years ago(June 19, 2007 12:34 PM)
i let out screams like that from time to time
& theres no way that was a rape scenedid yall listen to the narrator? & how she remembered what flora said bout his old school sex techniques & how she left her progressive attitude @ the table?
more importantlywhat good is a narrator if he doesnt mention shes being raped? he talked right through the scene
& what woman smiles & cuddles after being raped.
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missprincipessa — 18 years ago(July 30, 2007 07:30 AM)
Totally agree with jghitchins, there's no way the scen implies rape. Dogville is another story, but that's exactly the point, it's another story. In Manderlay, Grace has been fantisizing on timothy for ages and finally gets him (well truth be told he gets her) but she is willing. Like you said, it's bad bad sex, but she seems to get something aout of it anyway. lol
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malec3 — 18 years ago(August 06, 2007 01:00 AM)
Apparently the people who suggest Timothy raped Grace have never had sexual tension before. For all the interpretation on their relationship it can be boiled down to two people acting on the sexual tension between each other. It wasn't a rape scene or a love scene, it was a sex scene. Just sex. I'd delve into the idea that the visually image of a white woman being fed, not lovemaking, fed by a man who isn't white would evoke thoughts that the woman was forced but I'd be here all night & its late. If you saw the entire movie not some scene you downloaded out of context, its pretty obvious it wasn't rape.
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Byzantine15 — 18 years ago(September 01, 2007 06:40 PM)
yuhno, if I was a person who had actually experienced being raped, I might be offended by someone calling this a rape scene. The cliche "I felt raped." (and I've heard men use it too) gets applied to everything from an inappropriate sexual remark to getting a speeding ticket from a cop. Ridiculous! Selfish insensitive cad does not = rapist.
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g_monte — 17 years ago(November 06, 2008 08:55 AM)
I agree with you completely, jghitchins. He was "selfish, self-centered" since it appeared he only wanted to get off and didn't seem to care whether she got any pleasure out of it. If you agree to have sex with a guy and he turns out to be too rough or uncaring then you chalk it up to bad sex but NOT rape.
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cthulhulurks — 14 years ago(March 15, 2012 03:28 AM)
How old are you?
It appears that folks who have been arguing this sex scene was rape have barely finished secondary. Or maybe they're a bunch of ugly fat vile unhappy dykes who know they'll never get a di(k.
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mldardar — 10 years ago(December 02, 2015 03:11 AM)
The commenters calling it rape or borderline rape are racists. Black man having sex with white girl = rape in the mind of the racist. But the fact is, after the sex, Grace is seen smiling with Timothy's arm over her as he sleeps. She only got out of bed when she heard the disturbance outside. At no time was she being held against her will. And it looked pretty much like she experienced an orgasm. But the racist mind can't accept that a beautiful white woman would enjoy sex with a black man, although the oppositewhite man on black woman, usually rapingwas very widespread. They must be so happy that Heidi Klum and Seal divorced after having many children, evidence of lots of sex!
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