This would lead to Richards death(I feel that he is redundant and useless and superman must accept responsibility for HI
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Superman Returns
death-lord — 9 years ago(November 04, 2016 11:24 PM)
This would lead to Richards death(I feel that he is redundant and useless and superman must accept responsibility for HIS SON)
The sequel would than deal with the sonhaving learned his his powers and still having brainiacs concious(parts of brainiacs personality still lives) decides to go to space and fight some threat that brainiac was aware ofdarkseid
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evolution_500_2 — 9 years ago(November 05, 2016 12:30 AM)
"This would lead to Richards death(I feel that he is redundant and useless and superman must accept responsibility for HIS SON)"
Richard was far from redundant and useless. Plus, by the end of "Returns", Clark made it explicitly clear that he would indeed be there for his son when he needs him, so he was indeed accepting responsibility. I'd imagine the relationship between Lois and Clark to be more akin to a divorced couple.
"The sequel would than deal with the sonhaving learned his his powers and still having brainiacs concious(parts of brainiacs personality still lives) decides to go to space and fight some threat that brainiac was aware ofdarkseid
Thoughts on this trilogy idea?"
Personally, I'm not crazy about this idea, just because a) with the son being a hybrid of Kryptonian and human genes, I doubt he'd be as powerful as Clark, let alone is able to access his abilities (hell, it's even possible that the super strength was just a one-off fluke, brought on by stress/adrenaline), b) a person doesn't go out to antagonize a powerhouse like Darkseid, especially if they're aware of how dangerous he is. That's just picking a fight for the hell of it. In terms of characters that could work as an antagonist, I've always thought Lobo would have been perfect (80s Lobo, not 90s Lobo) just because he's like a darker take on the Man of Steel. I think it would be cool to have a movie featuring both Lobo and Darkseid. -
death-lord — 9 years ago(November 07, 2016 09:07 PM)
I knowim just basing this off of a superman sequel idea i gotthe son would be a cocky prick and a smartass and when darkseid beats him and sends him to earth we are suppose to be like YEAHsupes clean him up so that darkseid can do it again
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evolution_500_2 — 9 years ago(November 09, 2016 07:29 PM)
"I knowim just basing this off of a superman sequel idea i gotthe son would be a cocky prick and a smartass and when darkseid beats him and sends him to earth we are suppose to be like YEAHsupes clean him up so that darkseid can do it again"
Still problematic. For one, there are no guarantees that the son, being a hybrid, would be as strong or have the same kind of abilities as the father, let alone any abilities at all. Also, that still brings up the issue of getting Darkseid involved; having the son being a cocky arrogant prick going around planet to planet going "YEAH, SUCK MY #$%#! I'M A BAD-A##!" - that's just kicking a hornet's nest for the sake of it. -
justKryptonite — 9 years ago(December 27, 2016 07:44 PM)
The scenes did not show anything other than Singer was in love with the original movies. As far as not just being a rip off of scenes, well I guess they could have intended to have scenes like the night flight show growth but the actors were so, SO terrible all it showed were some very cheesy costumes, bad acting and effects along with an awkward lack of dialogue. The movie was pretty and that was all it was. The "it had heart" argument is nothing more than the fact it was a love letter to the Donner films.
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evolution_500_2 — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 02:57 AM)
"but the actors were so, SO terrible"
What made them terrible?
"bad acting and effects
The effects weren't bad at all.
"awkward lack of dialogue."
Why is this even an issue? Sometimes in movies scenes are more effective, even powerful without dialogue.
"The "it had heart" argument is nothing more than the fact it was a love letter to the Donner films."
Not just the Donner movies, but also to the Superman character in general; recreating Superman's first appearance with him lifting a car over his head, cameos featuring people from other versions of the Superman legend, including Noel Neill who played Lois Lane in the 1950s George Reeves TV series and here is the aging dowager that Lex Luthor swindles, and Jack Larson who was Jimmy Olsen in the 1950s tv series and plays the barman that serves Clark and this films Jimmy when they go for a drink. Even the space shuttle was virtually recreated from the animated "Superman - Last Son of Krypton". -
Panthro44 — 9 years ago(November 01, 2016 09:43 AM)
Oh, stop it. MoS blew this movie out the watererrrr, chunked it into space.
MoS had: better pacing, better action, a more realistic looking Superman, better villain, better plot, and greater sense of peril.
When we're thinking about our own brain, would that be a mental paradox?? -
evolution_500_2 — 9 years ago(November 01, 2016 10:47 PM)
"Oh, stop it. MoS blew this movie out the watererrrr, chunked it into space."
It hadn't.
"MoS had: better pacing, better action, a more realistic looking Superman, better villain, better plot, and greater sense of peril."
Better pacing, definitely not. A more realistic-looking Superman? Give me a break. Superman is inherently unrealistic, so you cannot make "realism" an argument. Better villain and plot - it's regurgitated material from "Superman 1" and "2" but dumbed down to such an extent that it's embarrassing, with bits and pieces from other and much better movies. Hell, not even Zod crashing into a satellite is unique, as that's from the much maligned "Green Lantern" movie. A greater sense of peril? A kryptonite island turning into a full-sized continent, threatening to kill millions of people is somehow kids' stuff? -
evolution_500_2 — 9 years ago(November 02, 2016 03:05 AM)
"no, Man Of Steel was far superior to Superman ReturnsSuperman Returns grossed $483 million but Man Of Steel grossed $693 millionboth figures are inflation adjusted, Worldwide Gross"
Being successful at the box office doesn't make a movie "good". "MOS" was a disjointed, derivative and generic mess - it was faaar from being "good". Not even superior to "Superman Returns".