Superman: The movie is 7.3 and Superman Returns is only 6.1
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evolution_500_2 — 9 years ago(September 02, 2016 09:51 AM)
"No it isn'tman of steel at least had a Lois with dignity who wasn't a whore."
MOS was just a soulless rehashing of "S1" and 2 but with more punching and destruction, taking elements from much better movies, superhero and otherwise. "Returns" actually had compelling ideas about relevancy and alienation. In terms of Lois, there was nothing whorish about her in this movie. She moved on without him, big deal. That doesn't make her a whore. -
evolution_500_2 — 9 years ago(September 02, 2016 09:50 PM)
"Not knowing who the father is"
She knew who the father was.
"plus those so called themes aren't really themes just references and no better then man of steel"
Not at all - from the way the movie was shot to character dialog and interactions, relevancy and alienation were very clear themes all throughout. Compare the Superman/Lois flight scenes of the original with "Returns" - whereas the original's was colorfully vibrant and playful, with both characters flirting and trying to get a general feel for one another, "Returns" in contrast was more melancholic, with dim, faded and rusted colors. Watch the expressions of the characters during said-scenes and the way they would glance at each other, especially during "Returns'" flight scene. It's not revisiting or redoing a scene just for the sake of doing it, it's to establish Superman's hope of reliving those moments from the past. Unfortunately, no matter what he does, he can't turn back time. -
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evolution_500_2 — 9 years ago(September 14, 2016 07:26 AM)
"Superman 1 needed TONS of fixing. It was one of the worst superhero films ever.
"Fixed it for you"
You didn't fix anything - you made even more errors.
What, you completely forgot about some of the truly awful superhero movies out there such as "Batman and Robin", "Batman Forever", "Spawn", "Ghost Rider", "Superman 3" and "4", along with some of the Marvel stuff made before "Superman 1"? Or even "Green Hornet"?
Granted, "Superman 1" wasn't a perfect film and it's dated, but for its time and in relation to superhero films in general, and especially in terms of how it contributed to Superman in comics, it's faaar from the worst superhero movie ever. -
JasonRebourne — 9 years ago(September 14, 2016 01:32 PM)
Thank you, Jason Rebourne for fixing my many many errors.
Fixed it you
What, you completely forgot about some of the truly awful superhero movies out there such as "Batman and Robin", "Batman Forever", "Spawn", "Ghost Rider", "Superman 3" and "4", along with some of the Marvel stuff made before "Superman 1"? Or even "Green Hornet"?
All better than Superman 1.
Granted, "Superman 1" wasn't a perfect film and it's dated, but for its time and in relation to superhero films in general, and especially in terms of how it contributed to Superman in comics, it's faaar from the worst superhero movie ever.
Oh please, it never did anything for the comics.
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evolution_500_2 — 9 years ago(September 14, 2016 07:57 PM)
"Thank you, Jason Rebourne for fixing my many many errors.
Fixed it you"
Delusional thinking doesn't qualify as "fixing".
"Oh please, it never did anything for the comics."
Of course it did. You're just too much of a delusional hard-a$$ to not look at the facts and details regarding "S1" and 2 along with "Returns". You don't like them, fine, but that doesn't make them awful. "MOS", though, was an inexcusable mess. -
JasonRebourne — 9 years ago(September 15, 2016 07:22 AM)
Yeah, but delusional thinking does need fixing and that's what I've been doing for you. Fixing your delusional errors.
Of course it did. You're just too much of a delusional hard-a$$ to not look at the facts and details regarding "S1" and 2 along with "Returns". You don't like them, fine, but that doesn't make them awful. "MOS", though, was an inexcusable mess.
Nope, that's you. I've just been looking at facts you don't wanna hear because they would shatter your delusions. Try again. Superman 2 is okay but 1, 3, 4 and Returns are inexcusable messes that Man off Steel managed to fix.
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evolution_500_2 — 9 years ago(September 16, 2016 02:00 AM)
"Yeah, but delusional thinking does need fixing and that's what I've been doing for you. Fixing your delusional errors."
You might want to look at yourself, 'cause the one with delusions isn't me. Like I said, the movies aren't perfect and are dated, but they're faaar from awful.
"Nope, that's you. I've just been looking at facts you don't wanna hear because they would shatter your delusions."
You haven't looked at any facts, just wilfully trying to avert your attention away from said-facts in order to convince yourself that "MOS" "fixed" things. "MOS" didn't fix anything - it's a disjointed generic mess that borrows from other movies and does absolutely nothing different or distinctive enough to make it even better than said-movies. -
JasonRebourne — 9 years ago(September 16, 2016 07:42 AM)
You might want to look at yourself, 'cause the one with delusions isn't me. Like I said, the movies aren't perfect and are dated, but they're faaar from awful.
Nope, try again cuz you are definitely deluded.
You haven't looked at any facts, just wilfully trying to avert your attention away from said-facts in order to convince yourself that "MOS" "fixed" things. "MOS" didn't fix anything - it's a disjointed generic mess that borrows from other movies and does absolutely nothing different or distinctive enough to make it even better than said-movies.
Apart from having an actual plot, proper characterisation, a good cast, etc. Plus this is the first time Superman has not been a Mary Sue.
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evolution_500_2 — 9 years ago(September 16, 2016 08:02 AM)
"Nope, try again cuz you are definitely deluded."
Try again, junior.
"Apart from having an actual plot, proper characterisation, a good cast, etc. Plus this is the first time Superman has not been a Mary Sue."
It had a good cast, no doubt about that. "Actual plot" and "proper characterization? Give me a break. It was regurgitated material from "Superman 1" and "2" with nonsense such as the Codex. Kal-El was and still is a Mary Sue, you deluded geek - "MOS" only made him more angst-filled. -
JasonRebourne — 9 years ago(September 16, 2016 08:57 AM)
Try again, junior.
Don' need to. I already succeed on my first try.
It had a good cast, no doubt about that. "Actual plot" and "proper characterization? Give me a break. It was regurgitated material from "Superman 1" and "2" with nonsense such as the Codex. Kal-El was and still is a Mary Sue, you deluded geek - "MOS" only made him more angst-filled.
Well given that Superman 1 and 2 were a mess and this film managed to be better. As for angst, he only had the approbate amount of angst for how someone would react in real life. Also Superman 1 and 2 gave him stupid powers like time rewinding, throwing his S and memory erasure, so Man of Steel is way less Mary Sue.
I don't give a f*@K about a troll who doesn't pay for his opinion telling me how to review movies.