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    movie_fan59 — 14 years ago(September 24, 2011 08:09 PM)

    Delivery drivers are not the same as servers in a full-service restaurant. Why? Because delivery drivers can't be paid an amount below the Federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour. Food service employees could be paid as low as $2.13 per hour with a maximum tip credit of $5.12 per hour. While most states don't permit a tip credit per hour that low, many states permit food service employees to be paid a minimum wage below $7.25.
    Delivery drivers don't take the order, check on beverages during the meal, make sure that the customer is being properly taken care of, etc. All they do is drive to and from the customer's house.
    Should delivery drivers be tipped? Certainly. Should it be a 15% tip? No chance.

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      lukeshand — 14 years ago(November 04, 2011 06:52 PM)

      I have been employed by two different delivery pizza chains. The current rate for the one I just left is $4.43/hour plus $0.90 per delivery. We paid our own gas/oil/upkeep. Oil changes were due about every month to month and a half. The average delivery was about 4 miles away. We answered the phones, took the orders, made the pizza, and delivered it. This is at one of the three biggest delivery chains in the U.S. I don't know where you are, but I doubt your waitress made your food nor took it to your house.

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        mikey1969 — 13 years ago(July 15, 2012 10:11 AM)

        It's easy
        $25 tab. 10% is $2.50, half of $2.50 is $1.25, add those together, you have $3.75. I make it easy and tip 20% default, unless it's horrendous service(I still give %15 though, since the poor slobs are getting screwed by the company they work for. I waited for 5 years, I'm a softie!), but either way, it's not as hard as it might seem to calculate the 15%.

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          andyofne — 10 years ago(March 23, 2016 07:30 PM)

          probably didn't get great service the first time.

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            meidal84 — 15 years ago(December 17, 2010 06:03 AM)

            I totally agree. However I haven't received your tips yet for the quality service I have provided you by making it possible for you to access the internet and rant about tips.
            My hard line of work that involved 5 years of university to do a bachelors and a masters, working at any possible schedule like 4 in the morning or weekends and holidays. For those of you who do not think every single job of the world deserves tips, remember, us people that have brains will do these things for you anyway as we get paid to do it and dont require tips to be motivated to be productive to society.

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                meidal84 — 13 years ago(August 04, 2012 10:20 PM)

                Sorry for the late answer. Going on the internet and telling people they have to tip if they want to go to a "full service restaurant" is my definition of being a jerk.
                So a server needs money for food and education? I guess we need a 30% mandatory tip law!!!
                The rest of us didn't need money for our education and food.
                Did you really write that you require a double Master's degree in order to not require tips to be motivated?

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                  mikey1969 — 13 years ago(October 07, 2012 10:55 PM)

                  You also get paid significantly more than $2.15/hr, you get raises, and you don't have to deal with people withholding your wages because someone in the kitchen didn't cook their steak correctly.

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                    Rylant — 15 years ago(December 24, 2010 10:20 AM)

                    If you cannot afford to leave a tip, then do not eat at a full-service establishment.
                    You do know there is another side to that argument. If you don't like the fact that you have to rely on tips, don't be a server.
                    I have been in the service industry for 20 years, so don't think I am saying this because I just don't "understand". I will be the first one to say that when somebody doesn't tip well, it sucks, but it is the way it works. The customers control very little in a dining experience and the tip is one of the things that they do fully control. If they don't tip well because the service or food is poor, or just because they happen to be "bad tippers", it is their right. As ALL servers know, for every bad tip that they cry about, there is a fantastic 30 percent tip that they never mention. Suck it up; this is part of your job. If you don't like it, go do something else.
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                      redheadstepchild — 15 years ago(January 04, 2011 11:38 AM)

                      Does anyone here realize that there is a seperate - much lower - minimum wage for servers? They rely on tips to supplement. And don't give the argument that they should be paid more. Just how much did you want to pay for your food at that full-service establishment?

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                        tylerdurden301 — 14 years ago(June 07, 2011 08:07 PM)

                        Include the total cost of a dish to me in the price on the menu. Don't tell me it's a $10 burger when there's gonna be 9% sales tax and that I'll be expected to pay an extra 15-20% on top of that. Just list the price as $13. Strange how restaurants in every other country in the world have figured that out. And every other industry in the U.S. has figured it out as well. Seriously, if you don't get paid enough take it up (and get mad with) your employer for being dicks about what they pay you.

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                          TheDistantPanic — 14 years ago(June 10, 2011 10:53 AM)

                          What are you talking about? Tipping isn't included in a price because it's a completely discretionary action. You leave a tip based on how the service was.

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                              bobthegrinch — 15 years ago(January 25, 2011 07:32 AM)

                              'If you cannot afford to leave a tip, then do not eat at a full-service establishment.'
                              I completely disagree with this. If you can't afford and you scrape together the money to treat yourself or someone else to a nice dinner for a change, I don't begrudge not getting a tip if you can barely afford the meal and it's for an occasion. When I was waiting on and tending bar I rarely got grumpy about tips. It was nice to get them because you're on such a low wage and the chefs I worked with could be obnoxious so having to deal with them when a customer wanted something specific was a ball ache, it was nice to get a reward. That said, if I was more money motivated there are jobs to accommodate that which are just as easy to get.
                              With me, if you're polite and friendly, I'll give you the best service I can. If you look down your nose and are straight up rude, you'll get that back. I hate customers who are rich as heck or getting a free lunch on the company card who don't tip and are rude. Generally in my experience it was the suits and high flyers who, despite being those most able to afford it, were the worst tippers and still acted like you owed them something.
                              How much s**t is there on the menu and what beep flavour is it?

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                                d_gatecliff — 15 years ago(March 09, 2011 09:44 PM)

                                And while everyone else is ranting about tipping and how little servers get paid, kitchen staff get paid less. Even if a server only does a mediocre job, has an average amount of tables, they still make more than a cook. Yes, a server has to deal with customer's attitudes, smile even if they are more hungover than they've ever been in their life, refill glasses, etc. A cook is going to stand there in a disgustingly hot kitchen, get bitched at by the wait-staff because they're ranting about their customers, deal with endless customized orders, mistakes that the wait-staff make, timing, knives, open gas, flames, burns for $13 an hour. So the next time you think you've got it tough 'cause your customer stiffed you a couple of dollars, through on a chef's jacket and apron and work your behind off for next to nothing pay.
                                And you do realize that tipping doesn't just affect the servers, right? There are tip outs to the busboys, the bartenders, the kitchen, the house, etc. You stiff one of them, you stiff all of them.

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                                  Pandoraa — 14 years ago(August 28, 2011 07:29 PM)

                                  And while everyone else is ranting about tipping and how little servers get paid, kitchen staff get paid less. Even if a server only does a mediocre job, has an average amount of tables, they still make more than a cook. Yes, a server has to deal with customer's attitudes, smile even if they are more hungover than they've ever been in their life, refill glasses, etc. A cook is going to stand there in a disgustingly hot kitchen, get bitched at by the wait-staff because they're ranting about their customers, deal with endless customized orders, mistakes that the wait-staff make, timing, knives, open gas, flames, burns for $13 an hour. So the next time you think you've got it tough 'cause your customer stiffed you a couple of dollars, through on a chef's jacket and apron and work your behind off for next to nothing pay
                                  Wow, $13 an hour? That's almost twice what I got paid per hour at my last job. I'd love to work for that 'nothing'.
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                                    rudyking — 15 years ago(April 04, 2011 12:32 PM)

                                    I manage a sub shop in Boulder, CO. There is this prepaid cardthat
                                    students can get there mommies and daddies to buy them.
                                    Most of the students who have them don't ever tip.
                                    On a busy night we will have anywhere from 10-20 transactions, and
                                    on the slip it will say the total percentage, which on average is
                                    about 2-5%.
                                    When I am low on money and I know I can't tip I will ALWAYS go to places
                                    that don't take tips.
                                    I always tip around 40-50%, unless they do a bad job.
                                    I can sometimes order food on a Friday, or Saturday night, be told it will
                                    take around 45-60 min.'s. 30 min.'s later I got my food.
                                    See here is the deal. If you tip well, and you go to the same places,
                                    you WILL get faster service, they will go more out of there way to make
                                    sure you get your food first. Sometimes they will even try to make sure
                                    that when you order something extra that would cost a little extra normaly, to
                                    to be at no extra cost to you.
                                    Oh, and to those jerks who "tip" like 5 cents so your bill will be nice and rounded. SCREW YOU. I am not going to spend the time to tip out a few cents. It's an insult. I hope I screw up your perfect little numbers.
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                                        tsw453 — 14 years ago(July 17, 2011 12:48 AM)

                                        But what if you can't afford to tip after paying for a $50 dinner?!?!?!?! Not everyone is rich enough to tip lol.

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