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    TheDistantPanic — 14 years ago(June 10, 2011 10:53 AM)

    What are you talking about? Tipping isn't included in a price because it's a completely discretionary action. You leave a tip based on how the service was.

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        bobthegrinch — 15 years ago(January 25, 2011 07:32 AM)

        'If you cannot afford to leave a tip, then do not eat at a full-service establishment.'
        I completely disagree with this. If you can't afford and you scrape together the money to treat yourself or someone else to a nice dinner for a change, I don't begrudge not getting a tip if you can barely afford the meal and it's for an occasion. When I was waiting on and tending bar I rarely got grumpy about tips. It was nice to get them because you're on such a low wage and the chefs I worked with could be obnoxious so having to deal with them when a customer wanted something specific was a ball ache, it was nice to get a reward. That said, if I was more money motivated there are jobs to accommodate that which are just as easy to get.
        With me, if you're polite and friendly, I'll give you the best service I can. If you look down your nose and are straight up rude, you'll get that back. I hate customers who are rich as heck or getting a free lunch on the company card who don't tip and are rude. Generally in my experience it was the suits and high flyers who, despite being those most able to afford it, were the worst tippers and still acted like you owed them something.
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          d_gatecliff — 15 years ago(March 09, 2011 09:44 PM)

          And while everyone else is ranting about tipping and how little servers get paid, kitchen staff get paid less. Even if a server only does a mediocre job, has an average amount of tables, they still make more than a cook. Yes, a server has to deal with customer's attitudes, smile even if they are more hungover than they've ever been in their life, refill glasses, etc. A cook is going to stand there in a disgustingly hot kitchen, get bitched at by the wait-staff because they're ranting about their customers, deal with endless customized orders, mistakes that the wait-staff make, timing, knives, open gas, flames, burns for $13 an hour. So the next time you think you've got it tough 'cause your customer stiffed you a couple of dollars, through on a chef's jacket and apron and work your behind off for next to nothing pay.
          And you do realize that tipping doesn't just affect the servers, right? There are tip outs to the busboys, the bartenders, the kitchen, the house, etc. You stiff one of them, you stiff all of them.

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            Pandoraa — 14 years ago(August 28, 2011 07:29 PM)

            And while everyone else is ranting about tipping and how little servers get paid, kitchen staff get paid less. Even if a server only does a mediocre job, has an average amount of tables, they still make more than a cook. Yes, a server has to deal with customer's attitudes, smile even if they are more hungover than they've ever been in their life, refill glasses, etc. A cook is going to stand there in a disgustingly hot kitchen, get bitched at by the wait-staff because they're ranting about their customers, deal with endless customized orders, mistakes that the wait-staff make, timing, knives, open gas, flames, burns for $13 an hour. So the next time you think you've got it tough 'cause your customer stiffed you a couple of dollars, through on a chef's jacket and apron and work your behind off for next to nothing pay
            Wow, $13 an hour? That's almost twice what I got paid per hour at my last job. I'd love to work for that 'nothing'.
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              rudyking — 15 years ago(April 04, 2011 12:32 PM)

              I manage a sub shop in Boulder, CO. There is this prepaid cardthat
              students can get there mommies and daddies to buy them.
              Most of the students who have them don't ever tip.
              On a busy night we will have anywhere from 10-20 transactions, and
              on the slip it will say the total percentage, which on average is
              about 2-5%.
              When I am low on money and I know I can't tip I will ALWAYS go to places
              that don't take tips.
              I always tip around 40-50%, unless they do a bad job.
              I can sometimes order food on a Friday, or Saturday night, be told it will
              take around 45-60 min.'s. 30 min.'s later I got my food.
              See here is the deal. If you tip well, and you go to the same places,
              you WILL get faster service, they will go more out of there way to make
              sure you get your food first. Sometimes they will even try to make sure
              that when you order something extra that would cost a little extra normaly, to
              to be at no extra cost to you.
              Oh, and to those jerks who "tip" like 5 cents so your bill will be nice and rounded. SCREW YOU. I am not going to spend the time to tip out a few cents. It's an insult. I hope I screw up your perfect little numbers.
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                  tsw453 — 14 years ago(July 17, 2011 12:48 AM)

                  But what if you can't afford to tip after paying for a $50 dinner?!?!?!?! Not everyone is rich enough to tip lol.

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                      nkeres01 — 14 years ago(July 30, 2011 03:29 PM)

                      I do tip but it still doesn't make much sense to me. Shouldn't the employers cover the cost. I am already being taxed on the food, which most likely is low quality, and then I am essentially paying a second even higher tax. The whole system is stupid.

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                        movie_fan59 — 14 years ago(September 24, 2011 08:24 PM)

                        "Shouldn't the employers cover the cost"
                        The law allows the employers to pay food service workers less than the minimum wage, basing the lower amount per hour on an estimated tip credit. The system is designed that way.
                        The tax on the food is entirely different, sales tax is a way of funding state and local government. It has nothing to do with the person serving you. Tipping isn't a second tax. It's a customary thing, designed to reward good service. If the service was bad, don't tip. If it was good then a tip should be given.

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                          matt-mclean-91 — 14 years ago(September 10, 2011 04:27 AM)

                          What the hell sense does that make lol? So if I go out for a meal with someone totalling $60, I should take $80 so that I can tip the waiter?
                          That's the dumbest thing I have ever heard, and I've heard it wayyyy too many times in this thread.

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                            admcan2 — 14 years ago(September 11, 2011 11:23 PM)

                            then don't go out to diner, and YOU get a "Real Job".

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                              LindseyT15 — 14 years ago(August 07, 2011 07:21 PM)

                              We always tip in restaurants, even if the service is not the greatest. About a week ago, we went out and had some of the worst service I have ever had. I will not go into details, but it was the first time in years that we didn't leave a tip. It was that bad.
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                                matt-mclean-91 — 14 years ago(September 08, 2011 08:58 PM)

                                All you people are bloody idiots.
                                As if I'm gonna tip you for you doing your job. If you don't think you're making enough working there, DON'T WORK THERE!

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                                  admcan2 — 14 years ago(September 11, 2011 11:30 PM)

                                  You're a idiot, you probably had mommy and daddy pay for everything you own your whole life. It's people like you who make this world suck. I don't know if you realize this or not,(which you most likely don't because you seem like a real pud thump.) but it's people who don't tip that are looked at as the scum and lowlife's. You're a fool. Go pound salt douche.

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                                    matt-mclean-91 — 14 years ago(September 11, 2011 11:53 PM)

                                    So according to your brilliant logic. I am "scum" and a "lowlife" because I don't tip? Wow, you have some serious issues hahahahaha.
                                    How pathetic, let me guess. You work in hospitality and you cry yourself to sleep every time someone doesn't tip you? What a sook you are. I feel really bad for you hahahhahahahaha.
                                    You're AN idiot 🙂

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                                      goodtimes92618 — 14 years ago(September 28, 2011 12:22 AM)

                                      you're a kid and you really don't know what you're talking about. come back to this thread 5 years from now and you will think to yourself how stupid you sound. but we live and we learn

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                                        matt-mclean-91 — 14 years ago(September 28, 2011 12:50 AM)

                                        You, and everyone in this thread is obviously some butt-hurt waiter who thinks the world is too tough. While I'm working in a job which I get payed satisfactory for and don't mind all the work. Grow up babies

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                                          movie_fan59 — 14 years ago(September 30, 2011 11:22 AM)

                                          Apparently spelling and English aren't parts of your job or you'd know that it's paid and not payed.
                                          There's a big difference between being too cheap to tip (you) and those who don't understand that in the U.S., tipping is such a strong custom that servers are paid less than minimum wage due to the expectation they'll receive tips, and that they are taxed on a certain amount of tips whether they get them or not.

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