J Lo as Robert Redford's daughter?
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Fisant911 — 19 years ago(April 11, 2006 03:31 PM)
Oh man. see the movie man her race has nothing to do with it she actually does a very good job and you feel bad for her character because shes really stuck in life and doesnt try to move on.
in the movie she visits her old house in wyaoming and she states she remembers when her and her parents moved there from el paso .Maybe she was a mexican/white her mom passed away so she grew up with the southern accent and basicly the culture.And jennifer is known for taking roles that arent written for latinas
is why she is one of the highest paid she proved to hollywood that latinas were a box office draw i mean shes played characters name catherine deane, slim hiller,
Karen sisco, gertrude steiney,charlotte cantillini, mary fiore,which were all non latinas and she did it well.The race of the character has nothing to do with the movie if you cant get over such a small thing like that then dont even see the movie.
The best movie where she played a character that wasnt latina was in angel eyes her mother was a mexican and her father was white but it is so subtle that it doesnt really matter.
I can asure you if hale berry played Jean gylkinson the only thing theyd have to change is griffs actress to a black actress and it wouldnt change it. -
vanity6_2000 — 19 years ago(May 15, 2006 07:34 PM)
Your post had my full attention until you mentioned Halle Berry. So you are telling me that this 1/2 white Halle Berry would be Redford's daughter-in-law and she'd have to have a black actress cast to play her daughter? That makes no sense really. I'm sure if Halle Bery had a child with an Anglo White male the child would probably resemble an Anglo moreso than a black person considering the child would be 75% or more white.
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chains01 — 19 years ago(April 11, 2006 10:05 PM)
Is it really so obvious, or is it more along the facts of it fits the story better? Or that's who you see in that role. I'm working on scripts, and there's only one character that I specified in the role his race, because some of the things he says could only be done in that race. (i.e. making fun of his own race, which is something that I do often). Maybe that's how a lot of these filmmakers start out, but then the person who best fit the role was of this race. Or maybe J.Lo's part was written for a white girl, but they changed it because she fit better. It's not about social structure or any of that bull, it's about what will make the film better. If you want to get annoyed about portrayal of race in movies, get mad at all the gang banger movies that portray blacks and hispanics as ignorant thugs who can't make it in the business world so they take to the streets with guns and drugs.
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't exist.-Verbal Kint -
candygirl16 — 19 years ago(April 12, 2006 06:29 AM)
In 99% of all J.Lo films she is with a white man. now that I think of it, the producers probably just want to use J.Lo because she's a big name and then surround her with white men to get a white audience. They mostly say it is better for box office. and they are probably right.
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Jambie67 — 19 years ago(April 13, 2006 11:59 PM)
Even if she WERE playing Redford's daughter, so what? Haven't people ever heard of mixed marriages and mixed race children? Lots of white men have children with black or hispanic women. The laws of genetics are such that dominant traits usually come through. A blonde father and dark heaired/dark skinned mother usually result in dark-skinned/dark-haired children.
Would it be insane if Halle Berry played Redford's daughter? After all, her mother in real life is WHITE. -
Fisant911 — 19 years ago(April 14, 2006 06:30 PM)
I agree she played the heck out of jean she did great why does her race have to affect her characters portrayal.If she does good her race shouldnt matter and she has said before the only way for latinos to make it int he business is to go after every type of role not just type cast you have to argue witht he writers and the director to make the race of your character irrelavent.Thats why she is able to be in many movies and gets alot of dough because she can play anything from a mexican
illegal immigrant (my family) to a cuban slut(blood and wine) to an native american/white sut (Uturn) to a white girl (the cell,an unfinished life ,enough etc.)
race shouldnt matter talent should all actors audition for roles well most and they get the part because they did good in the audition. -
candygirl16 — 19 years ago(April 14, 2006 06:49 PM)
She is in a lot of movies that aren't that concerned with box office though.
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What a silly statment. Every movie wants to garner a big box office.
on top of that she is one of the most commercial actresses of our time. -
chains01 — 19 years ago(April 14, 2006 10:44 PM)
Okay, let me clarify what I'm talking about here candygirl. There are movies that pander to the audience and movies that don't. Movies that pander to the audience are concerned with box office, movies that don't aren't. Not every movie that's made panders. Pulp Fiction, Reservoir Dogs, Clerks, etc. These are movies that are good stories/movies that don't pander, but because of it they resonate with the audience. Not every movie made plays to an audience every whim, that's what I'm talking about when I say she's in a lot of movies that aren't that concerned with box office. She's a very commercial person, but she's had the ability to step into a few roles that aren't Maid in Manhattan.
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't exist.-Verbal Kint -
dr.gonzo-4 — 19 years ago(June 26, 2006 02:38 PM)
What a quagmire this thread turned out to beLet me ask you guys a question to ponder for a bit, why is it that you can sit through a movie with aliens or werewolves or catastrophic natural disasters and yet the race of someone's daughter-in-law can cause this much heated debate? IT'S A MOVIE!!! ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN!!! In movie land, Robert Redford could play a purple man with a lime-green daughter-in-law. And for those of you who think film should be "an accurate depiction of reality," we do have those, but they're called "documentaries."
David Lynch once said that we should look at films in terms of dreams rather than reality. Film begins in the mind as a thought and then it is developed through imagination. Reality is bound by rules and restrictions, whereas the imagination and dreams are free from all that and in that sense are infinite. Film should be looked at as a visual interpretation of someone's imagination or a group of imaginations working together.