Why was Katherine Zeta jones character such a stupid whore?
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stazza — 13 years ago(December 26, 2012 11:38 AM)
yeah, she looked SOOO unhappy skipping away with a big smile with her rich, successful, grounded older man VS some random, baggy looking, homeless clown that doesn't speak english very well. BIG Sacrifice she made there very sad yet honorable stupid whore.
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Zelner — 13 years ago(March 17, 2013 12:26 PM)
yeah, she looked SOOO unhappy skipping away with a big smile with her rich, successful, grounded older man VS some random, baggy looking, homeless clown that doesn't speak english very well. BIG Sacrifice she made there very sad yet honorable stupid whore.
Man, did I LOL at your comment! You made my day, stazza. =D -
mark_lucas — 11 years ago(April 08, 2014 08:25 AM)
yeah, she looked SOOO unhappy skipping away with a big smile with her rich, successful, grounded older man VS some random, baggy looking, homeless clown that doesn't speak english very well. BIG Sacrifice she made there very sad yet honorable stupid whore.
lol well put -
super-staff — 13 years ago(March 18, 2013 12:46 PM)
Because love and feelings are more complicated than people want to admit. I don't condone cheating but if that's what she wanted, there's not much else that can be done. In a lot of ways, Viktor was better off without her anyway.
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mvksmall — 12 years ago(April 19, 2013 04:10 PM)
stazza-
Watch the film again and check out Amelia's negatively hinest expression as she embraces her married man, then puts on her "happy face" for him as she oylls away - the practiced smile that she has been using in her job of 20 years to please passengers that she doesn't care a fig for.
Victor is "baggy"? That suit he bought looked pretty good to me -
CharlesVariations — 12 years ago(February 08, 2014 12:33 AM)
She plays such a dumb naive woman because there are women EXACTLY like her that exist.
She always dreams of that good guy, the mr.right, the one guy that will sweep her off her feet and make her so happy. However, at the very same time she constantly falls for these jerks, guys that treat her like a door mat, or guys like in this film that she becomes a mistress to. They find someone to confide in, and she tells them constantly how much she wants that good guy yet she acknowledges that she always ends up with a tool, a jerk. While she acknowledges this she can't help but always be attracted to those very same guys that will treat her like an object and it just becomes a continuing cycle. She is attracted to them, no matter what. She'll always pass up that good guy.
After graduating high school I worked a few crappy retail jobs and one them was a giant electronic store with hundreds of employees. Because of the massive amt. of co workers I was introduced to various folk from all walks of life. This is relevant because I interacted with scores of woman like Catherine Zeta Jones's character. Luckily, i was never that "mr.right" guy that they liked. But I have been a person that they've 'confided in; they're all exactly like the character in this film.
It's sad, it's despicable, it's pathetic. Yet it's also funny. However I can see how frustrating and maddening it is if you are a "nice guy" that they like but they leave for some jerk.
Also, this movie promotes the idea that nice guys finish last in terms of relationships, which is SO untrue. I'm the "nice guy" and in terms of sexual partners whether it's casual, I've had no real problem there but more importantly, I've had no problem with dating or having meaningful relationships, so that concept is complete BS. But unfortunately this film promotes that idea that women don't like nice guys.
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xellos49698 — 9 years ago(May 27, 2016 10:44 PM)
Nice guys always finish last. why? You're just too available, so most women will walk all over a nice guy and not give it a second thought.
Worse, if their career, family, or goals don't happen to coexist with yours? You're better off walking away, because most women are cowards. They would rather lie to your face claiming how much they need you up until they don't anymore.
If your a nice guy, your just a walking ATM that gives most women, free food and drinks.
Compromise? Forget about it, if your a nice guy, most women will wait until they already left you for bigger and better things, regardless of how much you would prefer being together and are willing to sacrifice.
7 times out of 10 most women will ask someone who is a nice guy to be in there friend-zone, rather then own up to the fact they were using them all along. Women who date nice guys play with them, pretending that they care about you, until they get bored with you trying to please them and move on.
For a nice guy, your simply some bitch's back up. Most women want a jerk who won't cook or clean at all, and will boss them around, while looking like Bradley Cooper.
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CharlesVariations — 9 years ago(July 26, 2016 10:20 PM)
"Nice Guy" is a very broad term, you can be "nice" to a woman and treat her right, and you don't have to "boss her around" whatever that means, and she'll still like you.
It doesn't have to constitute as being a "little bitch", it could also just mean, being "good" to her. That's why I'm weary of that term, I think "Good Guy" sounds much better than "Nice Guy", there's a difference.
That doesn't mean that a woman doesn't want a dominant factor, they certainly do. Especially someone that can protect them and make them feel physically safe. But at the same time, that's a generalization that they just want a complete "jerk." There's certainly such a thing as a guy being too nice, you have to balance it out.
The ones that actively go for them-the jerk guys- especially the ones exemplified in this movie, are usually ones with Daddy issues. Like I said, they know that they're attracted to these guys, they know it doesn't end well, and yet they know they're going to continue the cycle until god knows when they'll wake up.
Allow me to get a tad bit more personal: In my own case, my girl wouldn't even be with me if I didn't do any cleaning whatsoever (I'm a clean freak naturally) but she does the cooking pretty much. Once In a blue moon I'll do it but that's usually not my forte'. As for the ATM machine comparison, she actually makes more money than I do, a lot more, so she wouldn't even be with me if she didn't want to. So I guess, like, that's an exception to the rule? At the same time I'm not a Yes-Man toward her, I call her out on what I think is beep So there's that sort of "counter balance" that a "nice guy" wouldn't give her. Maybe that's the ""jerk-ish" part that holds the relationship together? I don't know.
It's really, really not as simple as you make it sound. I know it's what a lot of date doctor's say, like the one old guy who George Sodini took classes from (the lonely guy who shot all those women in a gym). But that doesn't just mean "Be a total jerk off and sh!t head to her. There's a huuuuuge difference.
Don't get me wrong I know exactly what you're saying, the type of guy you're describing definitely does exist. But also, you're describing a type of girl, but attaching it to "all girls." You're describing the type of girl with insecurities most likely stemming from daddy issues. Not every women is self destructive like Catherine Zeta Jones character in the film.
There's no simple set in stone "formula" like most dudes make it out to be. There really isn't.
As for the friend zone thing, Women don't friendzone guys. they never have. It's the guys that have no self respect who put themselves in the friendzone. They believe they're such a nice, good guy that they are entitled to the woman's heart or her feelings. Little do they seem to realize, she likes who she likes, and if she's not attracted to you then she's not attracted to you. So guys put themselves in the friendzone. If she wants to date guys that treat her like crap, then let it be. Don't make it your problem by trying to "be there" for her when she gets hurt. Screw that. Move on, grow some, and find somebody else, as well as find respect for yourself. But it's total BS when guys say that women do the friendzoning, they don't have to like anyone. Doesn't matter how nice or cool others think he is, if she doesn't think so, then bets are off. Too bad.
Only people with money say that money doesn't matter.
