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I never got why despite the fact that it was the Japanese that attacked us at Pearl harbor and brought us into WW2, in a

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    crockett_john — 11 years ago(March 18, 2015 06:01 PM)

    You think I have a bizarre take on the movie? Why is that bizarre?
    I'm just expressing my opinion.
    You may all go to hell, and I will go to Texas.

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      pgharett-676-553123 — 11 years ago(March 19, 2015 06:49 PM)

      You think I have a bizarre take on the movie? Why is that bizarre?
      Maybe bizarre isn't the right word. But I was taken aback when I read it. But what about the movie makes you think the filmmakers wanted (or expected) you to "root for the Germans"?
      I did read an interview Jack Higgins gave a few years ago, saying the book was "moderately sympathetic to the Germans". But that doesn't mean you have to root for them. I didn't root for them or Liam Devlin. He beat up an a-hole early on in the movie, but he was vicious about it. Plus rooting for Churchill to be kidnapped is pointless, as he was never kidnapped.

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        crockett_john — 11 years ago(March 19, 2015 08:29 PM)

        Okay. That makes more sense. It's been a while since I've seen it, so I may be mis-remembering some of it.
        I'm just expressing my opinion.
        You may all go to hell, and I will go to Texas.

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          pgharett-676-553123 — 11 years ago(March 19, 2015 09:05 PM)

          We're all just giving our opinions. I haven't seen it in a while either.

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            Terrapin2212 — 13 years ago(February 04, 2013 06:00 PM)

            I've now watched more of this series and its disturbing how they portray some of the Americans like Snafu cutting out the teeth of the dead Japanese soldier I'm through the sixth episode and no Japanese war crimes have been depicted yet. The only thing was the poisoning of the water (btw what was that thing was it some poisonous animal they put in there or was it a chemical device?)
            I think my favorite movies about the Pacific theater are Pearl Harbor and Windtalkers. If you are talking about WW2 from the civilian perspective I guess you can't beat Schindler's List and The Pianist.

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              mistamajestyk — 13 years ago(February 04, 2013 06:39 PM)

              "I think my favorite movies about the Pacific theater are Pearl Harbor and Windtalkers."
              I'm sorry, but I don't think anyone can take your posts seriously after that sentence. Pearl Harbor and Windtalkers are basically Hollywood action films in a WW2 setting. The modern equivalent of a John Wayne war flick. Full of historical inaccuracies and patriotic bravado. Not to say they don't have their entertaining moments, but they're not a very accurate potrayal of the war.
              As far as the teeth pulling goes, it happened. Americans did this. And you apparently missed the scene in an earlier episode where Leckie and the troops came upon the mutilated bodies of several dead G.I.'s.
              "Where we're going, we won't need eyes to see."

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                crockett_john — 12 years ago(July 30, 2013 12:24 AM)

                "Windtalkers" should have been a great film and it would have been if they'd focused on more of the historical events and hadn't made it a crappy action film with the story focusing on whether they're going to kill the Windtalkers or not.

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                  senpaidude — 12 years ago(April 11, 2013 02:15 PM)

                  I think the "movie" has left out many of the horrible things US soldiers did as well. Not everything needs to be in a movie. This movie followed a bunch of people, who at least according to this movie, were very civilized and with extremely high morals compared to average soldier in such an environment.
                  The same goes of course for the Japanese soldiers, but on average I believe that the picture given about Japanese soldiers was very negative in comparison to the picture given about US soldiers, when considering what actually happened.
                  But as said. It doesn't need to show it all. I think most of the people would definitely not want to see that. Also, the heroic picture the movie painted would not be possible with more realistic approach. I think it was realistic enough and well balanced.

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                    ChicoMaboy — 12 years ago(June 03, 2013 01:47 AM)

                    I think my favorite movies about the Pacific theater are Pearl Harbor and Windtalkers.
                    And I guess the best Vietnam War movie for you is "The Green Berets"?


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                      crockett_john — 12 years ago(July 30, 2013 12:12 AM)

                      The animal thing looked like the head of a goat to me.

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                        bjorn5 — 12 years ago(May 01, 2013 05:44 AM)

                        Letters from Iwo Jima is another blatant Hollywood attempt at making us sympathize for the enemy.
                        Directed by that liberal commie pinko Clint Eastwood, no less
                        It alsso would have been better if the doctor opposed his son going to war because he was an unpatriotic liberal who was against the war despite Pearl Harbor (the way many liberal traitors opposed the Afghanistan war after 9-11) and not because of his history with WW1 just saying.
                        You sure you aren't just trolling with that stupid comment? Or are you an idiot for real?

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                          simonchinnock — 12 years ago(May 08, 2013 05:01 PM)

                          All the Japanese war crimes like the Bataan death march seems overlooked as well as the Japanese war crimes in Asia
                          A number of reasons:
                          1)It was decided that no Nuremburg-style trials would be held and that most would be given amnesty; partly because no-one had a read on how the Japanese public would take defeat and occupation and whether any post-war resentment might fester in a similar vein to post-WW1 Germany. Public trials could be a rallying symbol that could put pressure on the occupation. There was also a great deal of focus on events in Europe and whether an amicable post-war settlement could be agreed with the Soviet Union. That had 99% of everyone's attention, peace in Japan revolved around whatever was the easiest option
                          2)Racist apathy, people simply didn't care, it never struck a chord in the way German atrocities did because the ethnic groups involved had fair representation in America; namely Jews and assorted Slavic minorities.
                          3)The American government provided sanctuary to Japanese scientists responsible for the worst acts of genocide, Japanese biological weapons research was decades ahead of anyone else and the Americans wanted the technology. It was a technology nations were starting to consider and the Japanese were way ahead with weaponised germs and tactical delivery mechanisms.

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                            R011DaveAAA — 12 years ago(June 23, 2013 12:07 AM)

                            It was decided that no Nuremburg-style trials would be held
                            They must have changed their minds then because a number of senior government and military officals, including former Prime Minister Hideki Tojo were put on trial, found guilty and executed.
                            people simply didn't care,
                            That's far from true, particuarly with regards to Japanese treatment of Wstern POW's.

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                              nickm2 — 12 years ago(June 23, 2013 11:24 PM)

                              let us not forget that some of the occupied countries (China, The Philippines) had their own war crime trials-many of which had death penalties liberally applied.

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                                hell-cat-1 — 12 years ago(May 16, 2013 02:48 AM)

                                You are a scary twisted person - associating patriotism with war. Is that how simple minded you are? Good versus evil fight? Do you really believe that's what war is about and that one side has to be evil? If you can justify the war on Iraq and Afghanistan then you are seriously mental. It really sounds like you know nothing and are a raging nationalistic war monger.

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                                  vojkan087 — 12 years ago(May 18, 2013 09:09 AM)

                                  Contrary to popular belief, WWII propaganda posters didn't represent ,,enemies'' in the most accurate way..It is time you grasp that.
                                  There is no good and bad in war, only bad and worse.
                                  To be honest, while there was an abundance of bad portrayals of Germans and Japanese, demonizing them beyond their actual responsibilitymodern cinema lacks, except few cases (always censored by US Army, Navy or whoever is responsible for it), in accurate portrayal of Allied forces.
                                  Russians were more hated in Europe than Germans, because of the things they did to same civilians they were ,,saving''.
                                  US soldiers also had their share of violence and brutality..The stress they sustained could bring the best in them. After all, US threw two A Bombs on two Japanese townsCasualty rate of those two attacks alone, hours in total, come close, or even tops half of total US casualties in WWII. And New York celebrated that???
                                  So don't bother with good guys story. It's war. It's our interest against theirs. Our politics against theirs. Us and Soviets could as well be Hitlers allies (Soviets actually were), if only few political moves were played a bit differently.
                                  True victims of every war are people.

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                                    nickm2 — 12 years ago(May 18, 2013 12:58 PM)

                                    ".Casualty rate of those two attacks alone, hours in total, come close, or even tops half of total US casualties in WWII. And New York celebrated that??? "
                                    I think NY was celebrating that the war was FKKING OVER! And now everyone can stop dying & come home.

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                                      babybyrd2000 — 12 years ago(May 22, 2013 11:34 PM)

                                      Because its progressive PC Spielberg and his boy goy Hanks
                                      Spielberg sees the world thru this culture is relative prism
                                      You should see the WWII MUSUEM in the CBD in New Orleans
                                      Great site but PC as hell with half a floor dedicated to racismmostly ours
                                      I'm like really Stephen.who never fought.you couldn't just give the 350000 dead boys some slack over being a product of their time and using inflammatory language about the enemy
                                      A fanatic ruthless foe
                                      Spielberg is smarmy and too high and mightycommercial eye for the camera
                                      But just another blame America libtard

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                                        R011DaveAAA — 12 years ago(June 23, 2013 12:12 AM)

                                        Hollywood is always so sympathetic in their portrayal of them compared to the Nazis
                                        You must be watching films made in a differnt Hollywood.

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                                          jd-276 — 12 years ago(September 16, 2013 04:40 PM)

                                          The whole premise of this thread is trolling at its finest.
                                          I'm waiting for the obligatory "This series is offensive to veterans" thread to pop up.

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