German 'Band of Brothers/Pacific' series out now!
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gasivodo — 11 years ago(July 21, 2014 12:00 PM)
lvrepoman:
Because there's only ONE angle to everything? Well OKAY! HEY Germans! Please do not make anything about bad germans - only good germans?!!
Time to hit the history books, boy!
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lvrepoman — 11 years ago(August 07, 2014 07:42 PM)
The thing is, in my experience with German filmwhich is admittedly limitedI've never seen the Germans portray themselves as anything but victims of the Nazis. If they would make a film or two about "Bad Germans," they might gain a little respect from me. I don't believe Germans as a whole will ever accept the enormous guilt they bear.
I suppose they are somewhat better than the Japanese, who seem to think they were the wronged party in the war, but that ain't saying much.
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phantoms35 — 11 years ago(June 06, 2014 08:21 AM)
For anyone looking for it, it was renamed 'Generation War' here in the US. It is currently available on discs from Netflix (but not streaming) and on Amazon under this title. I searched for Unsere Mutter, Unsere Vatter, but it was momentarily confusing that the results were listed by a different name.
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schlob77 — 11 years ago(September 30, 2014 11:21 AM)
I've seen it and it is very good BUT everyone has got to STOP calling it the German Band of Brothers. It's about 5 Germans who were very close friends before the war and shows what happens to them during the war. It is NOTHING at all like Band of Brothers or even the Pacific for that matter.
I highly recommend it but STOP calling it the German Band of Brothers!!!!!! -
DruggieRagnar — 11 years ago(October 01, 2014 04:16 AM)
You make a good point and I'm fully aware that I might have mislead people with my topic title. This howevere is all done to raise awareness and actually get people to watch it. It's far more appealing to most viewers whom probably wouldn't have starting watching the show if the title would have said something like: German tv series about young people before, during and after WWII. From what I've heard, most Americans (and maybe some other countries) don't like to read subtitles and prefer movies with english as the spoken language, like Valkyrie for instance. I'm sure there are also many moviegoers who don't give a sh*t about that, but still.
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Ehrgeiz — 10 years ago(June 17, 2015 10:48 AM)
"Bands of Brothers" and "The Pacific" are vastly superior shows compared to "Generation War", I think. You cannot compare them fully because both american shows deal more with the frontline (especially "The Pacific"), while in the German one fighting scenes are rare. Although what Generation War cannot change is that BOB/TP have much higher production values.
But the main point is for me the authenticity. BOB/TP reenact real battles. "Generation war" is reflecting on themes happening on the East Front, but it is a highly fictionalized version not caring much about details. For example, the one longer battle scene is set in the enormous steppe battle of Kursk in 1943, but - I suppose because its easier to do - features house fighting, which was not very common in that battle.
If you take a closer look, "Generation war" has many situations that are unlikely or do not match well when you have read books about the Eastern front. There are so many things, that I won't even go on detail here, but which make me dislike the series. -
nickm2 — 10 years ago(June 18, 2015 07:11 PM)
Haven't seen the series but I agree with you that it would be a problem to show the sheer scale of fighting on the Ukrainian Steppes. Heck, I remember Guy Sajer's "Forgotten Soldier" & his description of a Soviet attack on his position: an artillery barrage that literally made the earth thrash like an earthquake & the sky alternately darken from debris or lighten up from the flashes of the explosions; or a line of Soviet footsoldiers stretching from one horizon to the other all yelling & cheering as they charged towards his trench with bayonets fixed.How could you even begin to create a vision like that?
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Ehrgeiz — 10 years ago(June 20, 2015 08:36 AM)
Thats true spoken. Especially some of the late war battles like Kursk, D-Day or Berlin, had so many men fighting that its hard to get a grasp on the enormous size of the events. One relatively old movie that gives sometimes an impression on the scale of fighting is for me "The longest day". Even there, they had to use original footage at times (especially of the fleet) to get it done.
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nickm2 — 10 years ago(June 20, 2015 09:13 AM)
Well you'd need lots of extras (or CGI); the Waterloo movie from 1970 made good use of Russian Extras- I hear something like 16-20 thousand Soviet troops were used to make the movie.
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