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Why has the West pretended for so long homosexuality didn't exist?

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    TxMike — 9 years ago(September 17, 2016 01:25 PM)

    No, I say it doesn't matter, it is just a statistic, I'm wondering why it matters to you. You seem upset that estimates are lower than you think they should be.
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      jaroslaw99 — 9 years ago(September 17, 2016 02:35 PM)

      TxMike - neither Prom nor I are "upset" at what the actual numbers are. Ask yourself WHY any agency or foundation would deliberately deflate the real number? Answer - they are trying to make it look unimportant, insignificant. I have heard people in debates on TV/Magazines/online say in talking points "Gays are only 1% of the population. That gives permission for us to be dismissed because there will ALWAYS be bigger "issues/problems" to deal with.

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        PrometheusTree64 — 9 years ago(September 17, 2016 04:39 PM)

        Precisely.
        And if you add all the gay folks, the bi folks, and the bi-curious folks, you're talking about half the damned planet. And somebody doesn't want us to know that.
        TxMike doesn't even want us to discuss it! (And I can just guess why).

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          TxMike — 9 years ago(September 17, 2016 05:02 PM)

          Silly comment. I don't care if you discuss it, just seems like a whine.
          ..*.. TxMike .

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            jaroslaw99 — 9 years ago(September 17, 2016 07:20 PM)

            TX mike - so you do or don't see that it IS a big deal though, to significantly deflate real numbers?

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              truetexian — 9 years ago(September 25, 2016 10:53 AM)

              Interesting points about recent and current gay portraits on television. I've lost step, when did the numbers get downsized as to societal proportions? When I was a teenager, it was reported to be more like 10-percent of the pop.

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                jaroslaw99 — 9 years ago(September 17, 2016 02:32 PM)

                Thanks so much Prometheus. You put in words what I was trying to say. Did you notice my "quote" about the mission statement (?) of the Concerned Women of America?

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                  Phydeaux50 — 9 years ago(September 21, 2016 08:49 PM)

                  I can't help but believe that there is still a very significant amount of misreporting in surveys re homosexuality, or alternative sexuality to give it a blanket name. Or perhaps umbrella term sounds better. 😉
                  The issues of BM are still very much living memory, and I don't see a huge distance travelled since then. Contention has risen with exposure, but that's about it. Resolution seems a distant goal.
                  That contention is one more reason on the heap for people to misreport their sexuality. On top of that is the lack of 'exploratory' opportunity due to the said contention and its forebearers.
                  I think that's why the push for legislative change gets such vehement opposition. It's called 'pandering to a vocal minority' because it is yet to be recognised just how wide alternative sexuality is within our communities. Depth of alternative sexuality, or lack there of, is another contributing issue.
                  All the little devils are proud of Hell.

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                    truetexian — 9 years ago(September 24, 2016 10:54 AM)

                    Most of this thread has been interesting to read. Commenting on some of your latter points, I especially like your cultural take on today's and recent television's gay portraits.
                    As to societal proportions, I'm sure I remember as a teenager that the estimates were much higher. I even seem to remember a retail shop called "10 Percent". I haven't kept up, when did these figures get downsized?

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                      Phydeaux50 — 9 years ago(September 25, 2016 03:44 AM)

                      Are you responding to Prometheus?
                      If so, might be a good idea to post a bump directly to his post so he gets the notification.
                      All the little devils are proud of Hell.

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                        truetexian — 9 years ago(September 25, 2016 10:22 AM)

                        Oops, my badwas scanning and responding from flawed memory.knew poster's handle started with a "P".

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                          Phydeaux50 — 9 years ago(September 27, 2016 09:30 PM)

                          No wuckers.
                          All the little devils are proud of Hell.

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