Julia Jentsch's underarms
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nanik — 19 years ago(February 20, 2007 04:06 PM)
Excuse me! I am Brazilian and as far as I know, every single Brazilian woman shaves her armpits and her legs. I shave them myself every week. That doesn't mean I'm a porn star. It's just a question of local manners - in my country, unshaved women are seen as non-hygienic. I lived in Germany for several years, though, and most of the women didn't bother doing this. I was shocked at first, but quickly realized it's just a matter of local habit.
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jg1972 — 19 years ago(February 24, 2007 09:42 PM)
I have to agree with ninik on this one. It is merely a question of local culture. Women shave their underarms/armpits in Brazil and North America. It is less common in central and eastern Europe.
I was not making any value statement or judgment. That wasn't the point of my query.
I just wanted to know if Julia Jentsch was unshaven specifically for the role of Jule in "Die Fetten Jahre sind vorbei", or was she normally unshaven at that time?
It's a reasonable question. In fact, if you see photos of Jentsch on the red carpet at awards ceremonies, it is clear that she does now shave her underarms/armpits. -
psi_rover — 19 years ago(February 26, 2007 08:58 PM)
I can't see the point why is it important to ask if Julia has hairy armpits in the movie As long as it is not hairier than Daniel Bruhl's armpits, I don't think we should have a thread about that haha!!!
Daniel Brhl is simply the best!!!
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spittle8 — 17 years ago(August 28, 2008 04:06 PM)
Civilized women with self-respect, devoid of nihilistic tendencies and deluded idealism with respect to personal hygiene shave their beep pits and legs because it is a natural human reaction to feel revulsion upon encountering hairy women. What does this tell us? Hard to say. The evolutionary causation for this revulsion is less easy to account for than, say, revulsion to filthy things, such as insects or decay. However, it is just as natural to feel revulsion for hairy women. Therefore, unless you are rejecting human instinct on logical grounds. If the latter point is your position, then you are by choice of belief following a path that naturally will result in your partial-ostracization from society, depending upon how far you take that belief.
In conclusion, the reasons that New World Western women and women in most modernized parts of the world maintain a grooming standard that includes the shaving of leg and arm-pit hair are due to a natural human emotional reaction, and opposition to this practice should therefore be viewed as more revolutionary than common-sense or logical. You are the opposition. Your beliefs are counter to natural human instinctual response. Therefore, you are WRONG.
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nimrond — 12 years ago(September 03, 2013 10:54 AM)
What he says is laughable in other regards too. Even though all cultures around the globe show a revulsion to feces, babies do not - it is something you learn. You learn it in every culture as far as I know, because surrounding yourself with feces all day would pose a serious health risk for you. Similarly, we learn to feel revulsion towards insects or spiders, because they look very different to mammals and we learn to fear the unknown and possibly because we associate them with an unclean environment. But not everybody does and in many cultures people don't develop this supposed instinct at all - they might even consider an insect as a delicious food source.
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vicky_lc2001 — 12 years ago(February 12, 2014 10:30 AM)
Being hairy (aside from head hair) is associated with masculinity or testosterone. So it makes sense for men to be attracted generally to women who exhibit feminine features rather than masculine.
As for degree on hairiness, then it depends doesn't it. Having hair on legs doesn't necessarily mean hairy. In the Philippines for example, girls tend to pluck their underarm hair (some will shave though), but many will not shave their leg hair.
It is both cultural & natural, like beauty, both subjective & instinctive.
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hppg — 12 years ago(February 14, 2014 09:10 PM)
Well, yes and no. There's a pretty big difference between a "hairy" woman and a hairy man (coarseness, thickness, darkness and coverage) so I'd say the types of hair growing on women was probably not seen as very masculine in the past.
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Boopy77 — 9 years ago(June 10, 2016 09:19 PM)
if you are going to respond so emphatically, at least know a BIT of whereof you speak, because you, kind sir/madame, are utterly and completely wrong! In fact, women did NOT shave pits and legs up until the wise marketing people at I think it was Gillette wanted to sell more, natch, so they made it seem only right for women to shave wherever they could convince them they needed to shave! Also there was a time when women never exposed legs or armpits, so I suppose the idea never really was thought about quite as much as after the miniskirt came into vogue. The fact is you are so wrong in saying this (unless you are kidding which did occur to me) if you read up on the history behind shaving. Moreover I have read that in some cultures both men and women PREFER the hair where it is supposed to be by HUMAN NATURE (here you sound particularly idiotic) because it retains the human and sexual scents for attraction (or repulsion if you don't want a certain someone.) It makes sense that completely ignoring human attraction and what propels it would in fact be going AGAINST human nature. You say a lot of things that are wrong and make zero sense. Maybe you like smelling fake perfume or ignoring human instinct, but I think it's important to pay attention to scent when it comes to attraction. In fact, not shaving makes perfect sense (or scents, haha) and HAS BEEN STUDIED in kind of hilarious experiments done, in which they measured levels of sexual excitement in men and in women when taking a whiff of hairy pits! Go check it out on pubmed these experiments were actually done, not sure who volunteeredbut it had interesting results that go against everything you say unless you think civilization means mating with the exact wrong people (people who your nose would alert you to NOT mate with, for example.) Now how funny is it that a simple question about this actor's pits actually taught us all something? (Not sure how much or what, but there ya go)
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karanwe-1 — 15 years ago(May 02, 2010 07:17 PM)
I live in central Europe - Poland namely, and it is the most natural and common thing for women here to shave their legs and armpits, for young women especiallly. Not doing so is regarded as negligence. In my life i have seen a few women who didn't do that - mostly elderly or middle-aged women of lower economic status.
I think this is also the case in other countries of central and eastern Europe.
It is true though that this ritual is strongly connected with culture and may represent the social pressure that is put on women to be always attractive and please men, the same way as make-up does. -
luntenriecher — 17 years ago(June 27, 2008 04:26 PM)
I totally agree that it's just a cultural and sociological matter whether or how much women shave their armpits and other body parts, but just to defend fw-bz a little: He didn't say that all women who shave their armpits/etc. are porn stars, but that all (at least feminine mainstream) porn stars do so. I don't like seeing misunderstandings (being) unfold because of cause and consequence being mixed up.
And by the way I can imagine quite well that there are enough (poorly satisfied ^^) men who think that all women are shaved at anytime because they don't know it better from the porn movies they consume frequently, even though just few women in their "real" cultural and local environment do. -
zyk007jdg — 19 years ago(March 23, 2007 05:30 AM)
i agree with leona. jule doesn't seem to be the kind of girl who pays too much attention to her appearance, I mean, look at her hair, it's a little greasy she has to work a lot to pay for her debts, so I guess the director decided that she wouldn't have so much time spent on her clothes or hair or her anything.
BTW, I didn't notice anything until I read about this thread.
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