Anyone think Nuada was too badass to die?
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Hasek — 16 years ago(October 23, 2009 09:55 PM)
In case no one has noticed, Nuada wanted to do the selfless thing. The elves moved underground so the humans could have the Earth, originally in the story. The humans (both in the movie and real life) have destroyed the Earth, that will eventually result in our own extinction. Nuada's motivation in eradicating humanity was that they were dooming the planet, the planet is infinitely more than just somewhere for man to hang his hat (although that concept escapes a great many). This movie was brilliantly done in the sense that there were no villains or heroes, just characters.
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Rochetti — 14 years ago(February 06, 2012 02:30 PM)
Maybe 10% that was his motivation, but remember, before he killed his father he remarks how they are living, how his father lost his pride. So I think in some way he was no better than us humans, but 90% was definitely human. Anyway, I agree: he was kind of cool and the main reason I liked Hellboy 2.
All that we see or seem
Is but a dream within a dream.
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paragonofanimals — 16 years ago(September 24, 2009 08:04 AM)
Totally! Actually, the only reason I'll watch Hellboy 2 is because Nuada is an anti-villain of sorts. And yes. Prince Nuada was badass and (honestly) more interesting than Hellboy or anyone else in this movie.
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Riding_With_The_Valkyries — 16 years ago(February 02, 2010 12:20 PM)
True! One of the reason I hated the first Hellboy movie was that every character was painfully dull, including Hellboy himself. I think the Prince and Princess and the Goblin market saved this one from a similar fate.
Only the dead have seen the end of war.
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tabernac_estee — 15 years ago(April 18, 2010 10:33 AM)
I've always had a thing for badass Royalty. Those Royal Princes/Princesses that walk it like they talk it. Nuada died, but even Hellboy respected him and what he was trying to achieve. But the method was wrong.
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mirrorseraph — 15 years ago(August 20, 2010 01:28 PM)
Not only was he super cool, he was right. A lot of people seem to be missing the legend in the beginning. Mankind broke their promise. They agreed to stay in the cities, and the fae in the forests. Mankind continues to destroy forests in his thirst for pleasure and power. Balor was weak and failed to do what was necessary to save his people. He had resigned himself and his people to oblivion, allowing himself and ALL of his people to die in the face of man's ambition and greed. Nuada (who began as the prince and was technically king as his father had died) was just doing what was best for his people. While it may have been a bit harsh, who's to say he wouldn't have pulled off the Golden Army once they had whittled down the humans to an acceptable level? Nuada loved his people, loved the forests and the natural world. They lived like poor children scurrying under rich boots. Humans are greedy and horrific in their endeavors, whereas the elves may have had war, but they didn't destroy the world in their efforts to live and persist. Humans rape the world, taking anything they want, elves lived with the world, together and at peace with their surroundings. I felt so sad when the forest God died. From its blood sprouted growth, life. What comes of human blood? Death, disease, infection. I doubt the elves had biohazardous waste. Nuclear power? what's wrong with narutal power? The elves lived on it no problem. We won't live as long without modern medicine and medical practices? Maybe that's for the best. Look how many people die in the streets with no family or anything. If there were fewer than there are now, that wouldn't be an issue. In humanity's struggle for immortality (because immortality is an opportunity for us to ENJOY "everything") they are destroying their home. You don't Sh!t where you eat, right? Well, they do it every day. Humans are weak willed, pleasure mongers. If it doesn't please you, it's not worth it, right? i hope humanity's days end in a toxic disease riddled wasteland. I hope humanity's future laments the days when they could look unobstructed at the sky, touch the earth with bare hands, breath ocean breezes without a mask, swim in disease free waters. Nuada was the light of hope, freedom, and happiness for both worlds, and he died defending everyone. It doesn't just suck that he died, it is a tragedy in the most profound sense of the word.
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MrRazorz — 15 years ago(October 13, 2010 09:31 PM)
Of
course
he had to die. That was the whole point. He was fanaticism personified. From the moment he chose his path, he had no choice but to see it through to the end - and his only two possible outcomes were to win, or to die. He said it himself at the end:
"Kill me. You must, because I will not stop. I cannot."
Having him fail in his quest but be allowed to live would have robbed the character of his soul.
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xthe_shiznitx — 15 years ago(December 08, 2010 03:05 AM)
Prince Nuada was very right in his cause to stop human conquest and eventual destruction of the earth and didn't have to die at the end of the movie, the princess could've stabbed her hand or arm in order to stop him from backstabbing Hellboy, she didn't have to stab her heart and kill both of them and I think there should've been an alternate ending where the twins lived but are wounded and don't have control of the golden army.
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persephones_beloved — 15 years ago(February 01, 2011 12:03 PM)
I did!! And, so did some friends of mine!
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