So bad, it's unintentionally hilarious. T.U.R.K.E.Y
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richimorton — 15 years ago(February 23, 2011 01:47 PM)
I suspect (and have read!) that alot of N.Americans think this is gritty realism captured on film by the old master for the first time .
"THIS is what England is really like they squeal - deep down we always knew it - thank you for showing us Woody !"
Can you feel that you ignorant patronisers ?
That which does not Kill me makes me Stranger
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wylierichardson-966-922691 — 9 years ago(April 24, 2016 08:02 AM)
What is so objectionable about depicting a wealthy family? Not all Londoners - or Brits - are wealthy, so it's not necessarily a 'cliche' to depict any one given British family as well-off. Don't many British-made dramas depict aristocracy? Do people hate "Downton Abbey" - and almost all other shows on "Masterpiece Theater", for that matter! - on the grounds that it's about wealthy British people?
Scarjo's acting may have seemed 'over the top' at certain moments, but remember that she was trying to convey 'unhinged'; it was the set-up for a furthering of the plot, in which he realizes that not only is Scarjo is about to tell his wife about their affair, she is actually planning to keep the baby that they conceived.
That set up the plot to murder her - it was an act of panic on the guy's part.
When I saw the movie in a theater, there was virtually no snickering on the part of the audience. It also was up for a whole slew of awards, including Best Picture at the Golden Globes and 'one of the best films of the year' by The National Board of Review. -
Ilario1 — 15 years ago(April 24, 2010 11:31 AM)
This movie was not bad at all. I thought it was pretty good. Better than the last string of Woody Allen movies. I didn't really like Scarlett Johannson in this although I do like her in other movies. However, I did like JRM quite a bit as well as Emily Mortimer.
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Dungbeatle — 15 years ago(June 14, 2010 01:25 AM)
Erm, call me crazy, but I have the sneaking suspicion that this film was not meant to resemble reality.
I think it's more a reflection on life and livingthere's an awful lot of talk about meaning and luck, so the movie's rife with metaphors. -
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dombrewer — 15 years ago(February 23, 2011 05:49 PM)
Me three. Absolutely dreadful. Can't believe the high rating the acting and the writing were appalling. And couldn't they have hired an accent coach for Rhys Meyers? He couldn't even say aspirin properly.
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getup2k — 15 years ago(February 23, 2011 06:36 PM)
Just saw it as well, I'm suprised it got quite such a high score on here but I definitely enjoyed it - it was quite odd in how it went from being a realistic and almost charming drama about a guy forced to choose between a very comfortable life with a devoted other and scarlett bleeding johansson, and therein asking how faithful would a man in his position remain in the name of that which a man fears most - commitment; to a tale almost darker than American Psycho after the shootings occur, considering the absence of even any clue that his character was capable of such a thing, and indeed change in perception you are forced to make when you realise things aren't as pristine as you first thought - the people in this film are now capable of killing, not just having lovely dinners together and bank holidays in the garden under the sun.
At first I was suprised to see that woody allen directed this film after coming on this site, but actually it kind of makes sense when I consider it would have somehow been a more fitting story set in america - at least less suprising. Not to cause offence to americans but the shooting in this film had absolutely no build up to it whatsoever and came completely out of the blue - something that I personally have never seen in a 'british' movie involving the middle classes, but I honestly wouldnt be overwhelmingly surprised seeing in an american movie. So maybe the inclusion of the shooting that seemingly arrived with no internal emotional debate for the main character, of any real significance anyway, was just the result of the movie having a traditionally american director/writer.
There certainly is no forceful message in there as he does seem to express some remorse, but really not enough for us to feel comfortable with, especially since the level of acting in my opinion was of a high standard - at least enough to let us know that, as viewers, we would be informed of any and all emotional conflicts the characters go through.
The fact that Chris got away with it, with such explicit luck, makes it tough for me to find any real meaning behind the film, and actually makes it come across as a kind of black comedy - although it really doesnt seem to have been made with that in mind. It's like the film is saying 'you can try as hard as you like, but sometimes people just have to die for a family to grow'. The fact it is glossed over with style we are these days used to seeing in english period dramas makes it all the darker, and unique, to watch.
Im not sure whether Allen intended this or not, but if not he has spent a lot of time and effort writing and directing a film that, to me, has very little obvious substance to it, other than a tacked on reference to luck because he got away with it. Considering his experience though I doubt this is the case, and perhaps he is very deserving of the score after all.. -
johnwilky53 — 15 years ago(February 24, 2011 03:47 AM)
Really enjoyed the film,gave it an 8 (probably a 7.8)reminded us of Hannah and her Sisters,Woody Allen at his best.Thought the dialogue and the shots of London with the landed gentry were a piss take and done brilliantly by Woody.Scarlet WOW Johannson was superb as was her co stars.
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ladin — 14 years ago(August 11, 2011 05:34 AM)
Woody Allen tries to tell us that a man like that could kill 2 people in order to conceal his affair with SJ. That is why JRM is reading Crime and Punishment in the beggining of the movie. And afterwards JRM says to the old lady next door that the innocent sometimes die to clear the way for greater plans. This very well refers to Dostoevskii's novel.