Paranoid leftist film that highlights leftist ignorance
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phantomF-12 — 12 years ago(February 04, 2014 08:46 AM)
So, if this is leftist - are you trying to say that the conservatives wants an all controlling government like in the film?
Oh, and just to say, the Gay dude he didn't actually revere the Quran, he only liked it from it's artistic point of view. As arab caligraphy is considered beautiful and artistic by quite a few people on the planet.
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BobFlame — 12 years ago(February 14, 2014 11:42 AM)
Depends which version of Fascism you
re talking.Mussolinis atheistic Fascism was against pretty much all religions.However,Hitler`s Nazism was definitely pro-Christian:
"I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.."
"So long as they concern themselves with their religious problems the State does not concern itself with them. But so soon as they attempt by any means whatsoever by letters, Encyclica, or otherwise to arrogate to themselves rights which belong to the State alone we shall force them back into their proper spiritual, pastoral activity."
-Adolf Hitler, in a speech delivered in Berlin on the May Day festival, 1937 [Baynes]
"Amongst the accusations which are directed against Germany in the so called democracies is the charge that the National Socialist State is hostile to religion. In answer to that charge I should like to make before the German people the following solemn declaration:- No one in Germany has in the past been persecuted because of his religious views (Einstellung), nor will anyone in the future be so persecuted.
The Churches are the greatest landed proprietors after the State Further, the Church in the National Socialist State is in many ways favoured in regard to taxation, and for gifts, legacies, &c., it enjoys immunity from taxation.
It is therefore, to put mildly effrontery when especially foreign politicians make bold to speak of hostility to religion in the Third Reich.
I would allow myself only one question: what contributions during the same period have France, England, or the United States made through the State from the public funds? - The National Socialist State has not closed a church, nor has it prevented the holding of a religious service, nor has it ever exercised any influence upon the form of a religious service. It has not exercised any pressure upon the doctrine nor on the profession of faith of any of the Confessions. In the National Socialist State anyone is free to seek his blessedness after his own fashion.
There are ten thousands and ten thousands of priests of all the Christian Confessions who perform their ecclesiastical duties just as well as or probably better than the political agitators without ever coming into conflict with the laws of the State.
This State has only once intervened in the internal regulation of the Churches, that is when I myself in 1933 endeavoured to unite the weak and divided Protestant Churches of the different States into one great and powerful Evangelical Church of the Reich. That attempt failed through the opposition of the bishops of some States; it was therefore abandoned. For it is in the last resort not our task to defend or even to strengthen the Evangelical Church through violence against its own representatives.
But on one point it is well that there should be no uncertainty: the German priest as servant of God we shall protect, the priest as political enemy of the German State we shall destroy."
-Adolf Hitler, a speech in the Reichstag on 30 Jan. 1939 [Baynes
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"I am absolutely convinced of the great power and the deep significance of the Christian religion, and consequently will not permit any other founders of religion (Religionsstifter). Therefore I have turned against Ludendoriff and separated myself from him; therefore I reject Rosenberg's book. That book is written by a Protestant. It is not a party book. It is not written by him as a member of the party. The Protestants can settle matters with him.
My desire is that no confessional conflict arise. I must act correctly to both confessions. I will not tolerate a Kulturkampf. I stand by my word. I will protect the rights and freedom of the church and will not permit them to be touched. You need have no apprehensions concerning the freedom of the church."
-Hitler [quoted from Helmreich, p.241]
"Secular schools can never be tolerated because such a school has no religious instruction and a general moral instruction without a religious foundation is built on air; consequently, all character training and religion must be derived from faith. from our point of view as representatives of the state, we need believing people. A dark cloud threatens from Poland. We have need of soldiers, believing solders. Believing solders are the most valuable ones. They give their all. Therefore we will maintain the confessional schools in order to train believing people through the schools, but this depends upon having truly believing teachers, not by chance Marxists who do not stand fully by their religious faith, as teachers."
-Hitler, [quoted from Helmreich, p.241]
"Without doubt the chancellor lives in faith in God. He recognizes Christianity as the foundation of Western culture."
-Cardinal Faulhaber [quoted from Helmreich, p.279]
"Except the Lord built the house they labour in vain. The truth of that text was proved if one looks at the house of which the foundations wer
- No one in Germany has in the past been persecuted because of his religious views (Einstellung), nor will anyone in the future be so persecuted.
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gillesxpsg — 12 years ago(February 15, 2014 04:18 AM)
It's called paying lip service, politicians do it all the time. Christianity was extremely strong in Germany at this time and since Hitler chose to democratically to climb to power he could not be openly anti christianity. I doubt he was much interested in religion himself though he did admire Islam. The Nazi state persecuted Christian organisations, some christians were sent to concentration camps others purged, the Nazis practised an anti christian policy of forced Euthanasia, concentration camps, disturbing reharking of pre christian paganism and so on. Hitler was a weak dictator and so he had to handle the churches carefully, he tried to bind the churches to his will under a Reich church, but he failed. He banned the scout movement in order that his Youth movement could succeed. don't lap up Nazi propaganda, you wouldn't accept it concerning anything else why accept it in regArds to Christianity?
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yusef-ghanima — 12 years ago(March 14, 2014 05:25 AM)
you are carzy to think that there is difference between right and left and that they are not both controlled by the same secret societies, both bush and kerry were in the same skull and bones freemasonic club.
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danimal09752 — 11 years ago(May 04, 2014 07:04 PM)
It's sad you are so confused. I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that a) you are under 25 and b) you are a very hard core, supports Obama in anything he does without question liberal.
The movie rips the Islamic faith in the same way it rips gays. It's made apparent that BOTH are punished for being what they are.
As for the whole Republican thing and talking of Hitler and his fondness of Islam..
Hitler's fondness for Islam has zero to do with the government in this movie. The point of the movie is that the government has turned against EVERYONE that is different.
Republicans aim for less government and more free trade. Thus the 1980's being so financially successful. Republicans pushing free trade, etc. Not an overbearing controlling government.
Look at the government in the film. Curfews, trying to take money from anyone deemed by the government as rich, the government spying on citizens, etc. And look at what we have now with Democrats in power. Government taking over businesses by force, government agencies spying on private citizens, the government pushing to take the money from anyone they see well off. Whole lot of similarities there.
So before you spout off trying to sound all informed, just because you've read a page on wikipedia and listened to Jon Stewart tell you how mean the other guys are, try at least a bit, to inform yourself. -
!!!deleted!!! (40461903) — 9 years ago(November 29, 2016 04:19 PM)
I think most British people would rather be "loyal to the monarch" than loyal to some kind of diversity-inspired "Council of Elders" selected by Guardian readers from various minorities (Muslim/Arab/black only, of course) intended to replace the monarchy.
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Jack Doyle — 9 years ago(February 04, 2017 11:52 AM)
lol council of elders, fun strawman. Probably still better than an elderly german workshy benefit sponger, at least those elders would be British.
Personally I'd rather elect a monarch to do all that school opening, foreign reception stuff. I'd vote for David Attenborough. -
TeenGangDeb — 10 years ago(October 29, 2015 08:10 PM)
Right wing conservatism is built on lies, hatred and fear that anyone "different" is threatening. And people are not worthy of help. And someone is coming for all of their guns.
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