…of the first part of the finale
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∂³∑x² — 1 year ago(June 15, 2024 08:50 AM)
Was that on the betamax video cassette Bobby?
You know the one Rubi watched every year with her mum on that special DVD-video machine hybrid they brought out at some point after 2004
Anyway, I liked it. It was a big naff but proper Doctor Who RTD naff but I think they've burned all their bridges audience-wise.
But it's right up our street for speculation and stuff
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Bobby Tomlinson — 1 year ago(June 15, 2024 09:30 AM)
Have they burned their bridges? Or is that just internet/youtube naysayer talk? It is hard to tell these days. I mean Doctor Who is getting cancelled every year according to them. Plus it is the end of Star Wars all of the time for years on end!
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∂³∑x² — 1 year ago(June 15, 2024 09:43 AM)
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Have they burned their bridges? Or is that just internet/youtube naysayer talk? It is hard to tell these days. I mean Doctor Who is getting cancelled every year according to them. Plus it is the end of Star Wars all of the time for years on end!
I think for those who could slog through it Bobby (And goodness knows I couldn't during Jodie's time as The Doctor) there's enough there to make it a really cool story. But the whole fresh start thing clearly isn't true because they've brought back old stuff and much of the old guard have bunked off because after Jodie there needed things to be better and, while they are better, they've kept going down the DEI route and marketed the whole thing as a black gay romp rather than a science fiction show.
Big red button next week and then nothing till Christmas.
That all said, I enjoyed it. The story was a Doctor Who story, the acting was better than the story, set design and CGI were all good. Camera work and soundtrack were passable.
Had it been a regular episode I'd even say it was good. But this is pretty much the first Doctor story since Christmas and so there's not enough of it all for me to call it good.
I liked the Christmas episode and I liked this one. The stuff in between the two lots of fun but not required.
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Bobby Tomlinson — 1 year ago(June 15, 2024 09:51 AM)
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I think for those who could slog through it Bobby (And goodness knows I couldn't during Jodie's time as The Doctor) there's enough there to make it a really cool story. But the whole fresh start thing clearly isn't true because they've brought back old stuff and much of the old guard have bunked off because after Jodie there needed things to be better and, while they are better, they've kept going down the DEI route and marketed the whole thing as a black gay romp rather than a science fiction show.
Big red button next week and then nothing till Christmas.
That all said, I enjoyed it. The story was a Doctor Who story, the acting was better than the story, set design and CGI were all good. Camera work and soundtrack were passable.
Had it been a regular episode I'd even say it was good. But this is pretty much the first Doctor story since Christmas and so there's not enough of it all for me to call it good.
I liked the Christmas episode and I liked this one. The stuff in between the two lots of fun but not required.
What do you think?
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I think that I am a similar camp to you. I will stick with the show because I like Doctor Who, but not sure that I would…were I a new viewer. I never thought that I would say this but I do think that it needs more episodes per season/series like Council of Geeks says. It needed the ‘filler’ episodes as these do serve a purpose. It helps the season breathe and shows us what makes this particular Doctor tick, builds up Ruby Road as a character and just helps to give us that overall feel of the two, their personalities and their relationship.
What did you think of the character of Morris? I groaned when I saw him but he turned out to be my favourite character and I hope we see more of him. I notice that wheelchair woman whose name I forget wasn’t there, but I hope that’s not the last we see of her. Perhaps she’s busy filming that spin off with Tharries.
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∂³∑x² — 1 year ago(June 15, 2024 10:27 AM)
Bobby Tomlinson said...
I think that I am a similar camp to you. I will stick with the show because I like Doctor Who, but not sure that I would…were I a new viewer. I never thought that I would say this but I do think that it needs more episodes per season/series like Council of Geeks says. It needed the ‘filler’ episodes as these do serve a purpose. It helps the season breathe and shows us what makes this particular Doctor tick, builds up Ruby Road as a character and just helps to give us that overall feel of the two, their personalities and their relationship.
What did you think of the character of Morris? I groaned when I saw him but he turned out to be my favourite character and I hope we see more of him. I notice that wheelchair woman whose name I forget wasn’t there, but I hope that’s not the last we see of her. Perhaps she’s busy filming that spin off with Tharries.
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I heard somewhere that wheelchair lady is off in Geneva during this story. Apparently a gimmick used to say she had other commitments during filming but who knows, maybe she just walked off set?
I liked Morris. I thought the actor was believable in the role and I'd like to see more of him in the show if possible. His lines though, man, they ate through the Akira manual for quirky scientist plants suggestion foreshadowing inevitable outcome and then repeating it over and over as we get closer to that event. Brilliant if done as parody, even more brilliant if us asking that is part of that catch but with the writing being so clunky across the season, maybe just bad writing.
The viewscreen with the other Susan Twists hinted at there being more filler stuff along the way (I guess that went with Rubi's missing 6 months between Christmas and The Devil's Chord) and so perhaps this Doctor's story is meant to be filled with other merchandise like comics and books to fully flesh him out, I don't know but it's asking a slog of potential customers who have been told that this show isn't for them repeatedly.
With the exception of Space Babies I've enjoyed watching
something
at stupid o'clock on a weekend evening but I'm not sure what that is
I say Church on Rubi Road with The Legend of Rubi Sunday and that's your 15th Doctor so far with comics, and the rest, to fill in if needed.
If next week is any good then we'll have 3 stories out of 9 which make for this Doctor's first series
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Bobby Tomlinson — 1 year ago(June 15, 2024 10:40 AM)
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I heard somewhere that wheelchair lady is off in Geneva during this story. Apparently a gimmick used to say she had other commitments during filming but who knows, maybe she just walked off set?
I liked Morris. I thought the actor was believable in the role and I'd like to see more of him in the show if possible. His lines though, man, they ate through the Akira manual for quirky scientist plants suggestion foreshadowing inevitable outcome and then repeating it over and over as we get closer to that event. Brilliant if done as parody, even more brilliant if us asking that is part of that catch but with the writing being so clunky across the season, maybe just bad writing.
The viewscreen with the other Susan Twists hinted at there being more filler stuff along the way (I guess that went with Rubi's missing 6 months between Christmas and The Devil's Chord) and so perhaps this Doctor's story is meant to be filled with other merchandise like comics and books to fully flesh him out, I don't know but it's asking a slog of potential customers who have been told that this show isn't for them repeatedly.
With the exception of Space Babies I've enjoyed watching
something
at stupid o'clock on a weekend evening but I'm not sure what that is
I say Church on Rubi Road with The Legend of Rubi Sunday and that's your 15th Doctor so far with comics, and the rest, to fill in if needed.
If next week is any good then we'll have 3 stories out of 9 which make for this Doctor's first series
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So she’s in Geneva with Tharries and the rest doing Wheelchair Warriors? Well that’s ok then.
Yes I’m the same…I know that I watched
something
…oh it needs more episodes. 12 or 13 like the old days. It felt like a chunk of it was missing and it is forever even advertising that in the show itself. I don’t want to spend my time reading Doctor Who comics or books as the show itself should be a satisfying enough meal.
Anyway Ricky loved it and didn’t sleep last night as he was so excited. He’s having a little snooze now in Bobbinia’s basket.
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∂³∑x² — 1 year ago(June 15, 2024 10:47 AM)
Bobby Tomlinson said...
So she’s in Geneva with Tharries and the rest doing Wheelchair Warriors? Well that’s ok then.
Yes I’m the same…I know that I watched
something
…oh it needs more episodes. 12 or 13 like the old days. It felt like a chunk of it was missing and it is forever even advertising that in the show itself. I don’t want to spend my time reading Doctor Who comics or books as the show itself should be a satisfying enough meal.
Anyway Ricky loved it and didn’t sleep last night as he was so excited. He’s having a little snooze now in Bobbinia’s basket.
Tharries seems to have liked it. I'm in the middle of his retelling of it just now
Wheelchair Warriors might make up for it. Maybe if we watch all the RTD spin-offs there might be some semblance of a wider story but I'm not sure Disney will be happy with Owen being a rapist in Torchwood and going unpunished for it
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Bobby Tomlinson — 1 year ago(June 15, 2024 10:54 AM)
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Tharries seems to have liked it. I'm in the middle of his retelling of it just now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWAcfOKL07U
Wheelchair Warriors might make up for it. Maybe if we watch all the RTD spin-offs there might be some semblance of a wider story but I'm not sure Disney will be happy with Owen being a rapist in Torchwood and going unpunished for it
I’ll watch Tharries’s video now. Declare all of Torchwood NONE CANON I SAY!!! No one cares about it these days and we have the new UNIT now with Morris.
I’m sure Ricky will bring you his review when he’s slept off his excitement.
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∂³∑x² — 1 year ago(June 15, 2024 11:33 AM)
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I’ll watch Tharries’s video now. Declare all of Torchwood NONE CANON I SAY!!! No one cares about it these days and we have the new UNIT now with Morris.
I’m sure Ricky will bring you his review when he’s slept off his excitement.
Well I hope Ricky has catalogued it all away into a way that I can query and he can respond with good answers Bobby
It's certainly one of the fun ones to talk about, that's a good thing and it's about time we were talking about Doctor Who instead of the tripe which has been getting rehashed for nearly 20 years now (And was old then!).
Make sure he's not had too much caffeine before he posts Bobby
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Bobby Tomlinson — 1 year ago(June 15, 2024 11:39 AM)
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Well I hope Ricky has catalogued it all away into a way that I can query and he can respond with good answers Bobby
It's certainly one of the fun ones to talk about, that's a good thing and it's about time we were talking about Doctor Who instead of the tripe which has been getting rehashed for nearly 20 years now (And was old then!).
Make sure he's not had too much caffeine before he posts Bobby
I shall pass your requests along to Ricky but I wouldn’t hold your breath. He isn’t very coherent when reviewing an episode of Doctor Who at the best of times as he’s just so excited! You can only imagine what he’s like now.
I’m just watching Tharries’s video now. My well he can hardly catch a breath can he!
he seems to be pleased as punch that this Sue Tech is The One Who Waits.
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∂³∑x² — 1 year ago(June 15, 2024 11:42 AM)
Bobby Tomlinson said...
I shall pass your requests along to Ricky but I wouldn’t hold your breath. He isn’t very coherent when reviewing an episode of Doctor Who at the best of times as he’s just so excited! You can only imagine what he’s like now.
I’m just watching Tharries’s video now. My well he can hardly catch a breath can he!
he seems to be pleased as punch that this Sue Tech is The One Who Waits.
Near the end when he's wrapping up he gets another spurt of energy and we get another couple of minutes out of him.
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Bobby Tomlinson — 1 year ago(June 15, 2024 11:51 AM)
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Near the end when he's wrapping up he gets another spurt of energy and we get another couple of minutes out of him.
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Yes I noticed that too.
Then right at the very end he says ‘I’m knackered’ but both we and he know he will not be sleeping that night.
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∂³∑x² — 1 year ago(June 15, 2024 11:55 AM)
Bobby Tomlinson said...
Yes I noticed that too.
Then right at the very end he says ‘I’m knackered’ but both we and he know he will not be sleeping that night.
I don't know what he'll do with himself after next week Bobby
Unless the Beeb and Disney are going to drop breadcrumbs all the way up to Christmas I think we might have a madman on the loose around his town
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Bobby Tomlinson — 1 year ago(June 15, 2024 12:03 PM)
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I don't know what he'll do with himself after next week Bobby
Unless the Beeb and Disney are going to drop breadcrumbs all the way up to Christmas I think we might have a madman on the loose around his town
That worries me too, Siggy. Do you think that he would be able to be trusted with all of these Sonic Screwdrivers? I won’t let Ricky buy any because he just gets too excited and I can envision him getting all over excited waving them about and doing all kinds of damage.
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∂³∑x² — 1 year ago(June 15, 2024 12:09 PM)
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That worries me too, Siggy. Do you think that he would be able to be trusted with all of these Sonic Screwdrivers? I won’t let Ricky buy any because he just gets too excited and I can envision him getting all over excited waving them about and doing all kinds of damage.
We should set up various challenges for him Bobby. Keep him entertained
The clamped wheelchair challenge is a good un' and so is the quarter pipe in front of the door run
Alternatively we could get the local primary school to make up little teddy bears in some sort of Doctor Who garb and have them placed around town in the windows of local businesses and do some sort of treasure hunt adventure challenge for him. All proceeds go to charity and anyone can play.
That's probably the best idea, I'm not sure that clamping his wheelchair or blocking his door with a skateboarding ramp would be safe in a fire
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Bobby Tomlinson — 1 year ago(June 15, 2024 12:19 PM)
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We should set up various challenges for him Bobby. Keep him entertained
The clamped wheelchair challenge is a good un' and so is the quarter pipe in front of the door run
Alternatively we could get the local primary school to make up little teddy bears in some sort of Doctor Who garb and have them placed around town in the windows of local businesses and do some sort of treasure hunt adventure challenge for him. All proceeds go to charity and anyone can play.
That's probably the best idea, I'm not sure that clamping his wheelchair or blocking his door with a skateboarding ramp would be safe in a fire
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I do really like that idea. Maybe I’ll pop down myself with Ricky and have a go.
They should also do special Doctor Who themed days, like Star Wars has with ‘May the 4th be with you’. November 23rd for example could be National Doctor Who Day where we all just forget ourselves for one day and dress as Doctor Who characters and all just embrace the Who…just for that day!
I hope that Russell doesn’t wrap everything up next week and leaves a couple of threads dangling for Tharries and other fans to speculate over for these 6 long months. It would be incredibly thoughtless if he didn’t.
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∂³∑x² — 1 year ago(June 15, 2024 12:30 PM)
Bobby Tomlinson said...
I do really like that idea. Maybe I’ll pop down myself with Ricky and have a go.
They should also do special Doctor Who themed days, like Star Wars has with ‘May the 4th be with you’. November 23rd for example could be National Doctor Who Day where we all just forget ourselves for one day and dress as Doctor Who characters and all just embrace the Who…just for that day!
I hope that Russell doesn’t wrap everything up next week and leaves a couple of threads dangling for Tharries and other fans to speculate over for these 6 long months. It would be incredibly thoughtless if he didn’t.
I might start a YouTube channel saying that Ncuti is effectively playing a blackface version of The Doctor and let everybody beat each other up for six months Bobby
It'll keep them off the streets. Because nobody wants an angry Doctor Who fan walking about the streets without distraction in their minds
Or we could just have them all come into VR Chat and we could make our own Doctor Who stories while we wait for the crimbo special
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Bobby Tomlinson — 1 year ago(June 17, 2024 08:58 AM)
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I might start a YouTube channel saying that Ncuti is effectively playing a blackface version of The Doctor and let everybody beat each other up for six months Bobby
It'll keep them off the streets. Because nobody wants an angry Doctor Who fan walking about the streets without distraction in their minds
Or we could just have them all come into VR Chat and we could make our own Doctor Who stories while we wait for the crimbo special
Yes they need to be distracted, Siggy. In the olden days they had no internet between seasons but they DID have the Target novelisations to keep them occupied where they could catch up on the stories that they missed. Also if they fancied a nice day out, they could go and visit one of the Doctor Who Exhibitions at Blackpool or Longleat.
VR adventures sound like a fine idea. We could set it up to take them on lots of different fun (but educational) adventures.
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∂³∑x² — 1 year ago(June 17, 2024 09:46 AM)
Bobby Tomlinson said...
Yes they need to be distracted, Siggy. In the olden days they had no internet between seasons but they DID have the Target novelisations to keep them occupied where they could catch up on the stories that they missed. Also if they fancied a nice day out, they could go and visit one of the Doctor Who Exhibitions at Blackpool or Longleat.
VR adventures sound like a fine idea. We could set it up to take them on lots of different fun (but educational) adventures.
It does seem as if the Doctor Who fandom have united against RTD this time around and so maybe we'll get some little adventures which are fictions made by loyal fans and Disney understand that they own nothing of the franchise and we don't want them being involved.
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