People turning in 3 seconds is ridiculous and impossible.
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HapHazzard — 14 years ago(February 14, 2012 05:27 PM)
Actually the OP is bang on. Of all the plot holes in the sequel and the original, the speed at which people turn is completely ridiculous - it's meant to add tension but it's just kinda dumb. The idea of a rage virus cultivated by making monkeys watch violent images combined with drug therapies is kinda beyond dumb too to begin with, but you can forgive it because of needing some suspension of disbelief to allow the film to progress. The idea that a virus is so powerful it can affect the human brain instantaneously simply by touching a mucus membrane or getting into the bloodstream is a bit much though. At least real zombie movies tend to show the person getting sicker for a while before dying/turning and yes I know this isn't a zombie movie. But the idea the virus instantly turns people is really stupid. It's the equivalent of having a scifi movie where people swell up and explode immediately on contact with a vacuum.
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loki242 — 11 years ago(March 13, 2015 05:47 PM)
I love when people talk in such absolute terms, it's always funny when they get proved wrong. Like when some scientist says life couldn't exist in this or that environment. What they should say is "life as we know it".
We as a species are so arrogant in what we THINK we know. We know more than we did 500 years ago, we'll know a lot more 500 years from now.
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grayremnant1 — 10 years ago(December 05, 2015 07:12 PM)
Actually, the most ridiculous plot hole that's commonly seen in zombie movies is the fact that reanimated zombies would never survive 24 hours without being destroyed by natural elements (temperature, decay, organ failure, etc.) I actually prefer the 24 Days Later zombies (or infected persons if you want to be PC) because at least they survive for an appropriate and scientifically accurate period of time. The idea that the zombies in TWD or in DotD could survive months, let alone days is beyond incomprehensible.
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Loveunderlaw — 14 years ago(March 19, 2012 05:24 PM)
You don't know the half of weaponized virii, & bacteria powers. At places like Plum Island, there is a KILL order for any animal that lands on the island, because the diseases ARE that potent!
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HapHazzard — 13 years ago(May 01, 2012 12:47 AM)
You don't know the half of weaponized virii, & bacteria powers. At places like Plum Island, there is a KILL order for any animal that lands on the island, because the diseases ARE that potent!
Learn something, read something, don't just make up crap to support your TV view of the world. There is no known virus, weaponized or not, that can infect you and alter your brain's functions that drastically within a few seconds. Chemicals, yes. Viral agents, no. There are indeed horrible viral agents out there that do incredibly awful things, and some that do them rather quickly. None of them, though, work
that
fast regardless of what scientists have been tinkering around with it. The end results can be horrific yes. But you can't go from being infected to 15 seconds later being under the full effects of it. And if you're bringing up "kill orders" they'd be due to the probable infection percentage, and the effects, not due to the movie-like speed the virus worked. If a virus worked as fast as it does in this movie, it would be eliminated by it's own process.
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Loveunderlaw — 13 years ago(May 01, 2012 01:40 PM)
There ARE virii, & bacteria that can kill you in under a minute. Bury your head in the sand some more Mr. Ostrich, that will protect you from all of the bad things out in the World LOL:)
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HapHazzard — 13 years ago(May 01, 2012 09:24 PM)
There ARE virii, & bacteria that can kill you in under a minute.
Only in movies. If you honestly believe this, and aren't trolling for effect, then seriously - you have absolutely no idea about what you're saying. There are no known viral agents, and no known bacteria, that can kill you in under a minute from being exposed to it. They simply don't work like that. Do some reading before you try and talk about something that your only knowledge of comes from horror movies. I get the impression you're mixing up chemical agents and viral agents in your mind.
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Loveunderlaw — 13 years ago(May 09, 2012 08:10 AM)
If you knew the names of those sorts of virii, or bacteria in our secret government, & corporate labs you'd have to be eliminated! SERIOUSLY
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Loveunderlaw — 13 years ago(June 04, 2012 04:59 AM)
Just take a stroll into one of our bio-research weapons labs, & you'll become the example. And leave your respirator at home, so you can enjoy the full effects of weaponized virii, or bacteria you dismiss as being fake because you can't comprehend them
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randomspamaccount-1 — 13 years ago(June 05, 2012 11:04 PM)
Sorry, but no.
I'm in med school and I can tell you for a fact that viruses cannot "turn" a person (i.e. show signs and symptoms) that fast.
Why?
Because a virus works by using our own mechanisms against us. It doesn't magically start dividing and multiplying instantaneously. It enters a cell and then seizes control, ending up with lysis (destruction) after it has exhausted the machinery of the cell. This bursting of the cell releases newly formed viruses, which then go on to infect other cells.
Most of the viruses that we know which do affect a person's mental status take a long time to do so. First of all, our body has something called a "blood brain barrier" - where the blood that flows through our body does not make direct contact with our brain and our spinal cord (the central nervous system). So, it is difficult for a virus to actually enter the central nervous system. Secondly, if a virus is able to do so, if it is not contained, it causes DEATH. Rabies, one of the most commonly known viruses to affect the brain, leads to death if it isn't contained. If a person starts showing signs of rabies, he dies from it in as short as 2 days to as much as a week.
Viruses aren't some sort of poison or chemical compound that are instantly harmful to us upon touch. They are made up of the exact same things we're made up of: some have lipid (fat) envelopes, they have a carbohydrate (sugar) coat, they have proteins like we do which function in the same manner, and most importantly, they have nucleic acids (DNA or RNA) like we do.
If viruses worked in the way that you think they do, none of us would have a nascent period and we'd show signs and symptoms instantaneously. People would die after instantly getting rabies or get liver cancer right after being infected by hepatitis B or C viruses. -
randomspamaccount-1 — 13 years ago(June 08, 2012 05:13 PM)
Wow, you're really thick.
What you're saying is like saying we have a weapon that can change the chemical composition of our beings.
Some things are restricted by the laws of physics. The reason viruses act in a particular manner and take a longer time to disseminate throughout our body is simply because it is physically IMPOSSIBLE for them to take over instantly. Even when we inhale gas, like halothane (an anesthetic), it takes more than 3 seconds for it to take effect and this is gas we're talking about. The smallest virus is thousands of times larger than the largest gas particle.
And I'm pretty sure most of my last post went straight over your head, even though it took me more time to dumb it down than type it up.