So Women are Basically Robots?
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orpheusisland — 10 years ago(December 22, 2015 04:33 AM)
Proof that some men can do more than get drunk and rpe though:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNzP7LUped8&feature=youtu.be
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Frantastic_Miss_Fox — 10 years ago(December 22, 2015 04:46 AM)
That link is just to your own video.
Are you literally just here to try and self promote?
Also, I'm fully aware that some men and women can be nasty and evil. I never said otherwise, but the majority are not like that. The whole of humankind shouldn't be thrown in with the bad lot. -
babuandbabu — 10 years ago(December 29, 2015 10:15 AM)
This is boring you know? Every time a guy complains women being manipulative & selfish like the OP, a girl like you appears & says the exact same words as you did "just because you have met some nasty women doesn't mean all women are evil".
This is really really really BORING!!
Why do you need to argue over and over with anyone when you should realize that most women (almost 99% like the OP said & NOT ALL) use men for their materialistic need and sex.
You may be a piece of diamond in a coal mine. But that doesn't make the whole coal mine diamond, does it?
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Frantastic_Miss_Fox — 10 years ago(January 05, 2016 02:29 AM)
If it's so boring then why did you bother to read my responses, why not just skip past them? My points are valid. If I (or any other girl) had come on here and said that this movie is proof that all men are beep we would have been swarmed with messages saying 'not all men are like that'. That would also be true. If I judged every single man from a few bad experiences that would be just as wrong. All men and women shouldn't be thrown in with the minority that are nasty people.
when you should realize that most women (almost 99% like the OP said & NOT ALL) use men for their materialistic need and sex.
Why should I realise something that is simply not true? I'm not denying that there are women like that in the world but the percentage of those women compared to the rest would be nowhere near that high.
Also, in the context of this movie, calling all women cold, emotionless, manipulative robots doesn't fully work anyway considering the way that Nathan created and treated these robots which was what drove them to rebel against him and to assume that all men were the same. We know that to be wrong because Caleb wasn't anything like Nathan, and this way of thinking was shown as wrong, yet people are watching this film and taking away from it that all women are the same? It's ridiculous. -
Frantastic_Miss_Fox — 10 years ago(January 19, 2016 01:44 AM)
Well, technically women don't need men for sex or material needs. Reproductive needs, yes, but there are other ways to fulfil sexual needs that don't require men. Material needs, women can also take care of themselves if they work and earn money. Some women may use men for those things but the majority don't.
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babuandbabu — 10 years ago(January 19, 2016 02:19 AM)
Well, technically women don't need men for sex or material needs.
I see. But if I see your point
technically
, then what you call sex isn't sex either. I would call that unnatural stimulation of genitals resulting orgasm. According to some sex experts SEX means sex involving male and female genitals. Sex is so ****ed up these days that you can't even define what is sex anymore because of the broad LGBT movement.
Some women may use men for those things but the majority don't.
Then what do those majority of women do? Do they all have a high paying job? Do they all go to a man when they need a baby? Definitely not.
I think your judgement is clouded.
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Frantastic_Miss_Fox — 10 years ago(January 19, 2016 05:26 AM)
what you call sex isn't sex either. I would call that unnatural stimulation of genitals resulting orgasm. According to some sex experts SEX means sex involving male and female genitals. Sex is so ****ed up these days that you can't even define what is sex anymore because of the broad LGBT movement.
So, you're saying that lesbians don't have real sex? What about gay guys if sex is 'involving male and female genitals'. Sex is not beep up these days and you can define sex, it just has a broader definition. 'I would call that unnatural stimulation of genitals resulting orgasm.' so you're saying that oral sex or masturbation are unnatural? My judgement is clearly not the one that's clouded.
Then what do those majority of women do? Do they all have a high paying job?
You don't need a high paying job to earn a living and buy yourself things. Do all men have a high paying job? No. Neither do all women. They all still work and earn their own money though. -
babuandbabu — 10 years ago(January 19, 2016 06:06 PM)
so you're saying that oral sex or masturbation are unnatural?
Not saying they are unnatural but not REAL sex either. What I meant by saying unnatural is the way lesbians please each other. So do gays.
You see the semen is meant to go inside the vagina and not into anus or someone's mouth. It's purpose is to impregnate the female. If you still can't figure out what pure sex is then I can't help.
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Frantastic_Miss_Fox — 10 years ago(January 20, 2016 02:00 AM)
Not saying they are unnatural but not REAL sex either. What I meant by saying unnatural is the way lesbians please each other. So do gays.
But you're contradicting yourself there. 'They're not unnatural, but not real sex. Unnatural is the way lesbians please each other and gays' If oral and masturbation aren't unnatural then how can lesbians and gay guys be unnatural when they do it to each other? Or are you just saying that you think homosexual sex is unnatural? Sex covers a whole range of things. Those things are included and are not unnatural. Homosexual sex is not unnatural either.
You see the semen is meant to go inside the vagina and not into anus or someone's mouth. It's purpose is to impregnate the female.
So every time people have sex and use protection, is that also unnatural? It's supposed to go in and impregnate the female, right? Otherwise, it's not real sex. Also, I really hope you never ask a girl to do anal or to give you a blow job because you clearly think those acts are unnatural, and it would be incredibly hypocritical of you if you were saying they were unnatural when same sex couples do them but fine when you do them. -
babuandbabu — 10 years ago(January 20, 2016 04:22 AM)
Sex covers a whole range of things.
It does now. Because man is an intelligent specie & it likes to explore.
So every time people have sex and use protection, is that also unnatural?
It can be unnatural "Technically". Here the same technicality applies by which a woman doesn't necessarily need a man to please herself. Because the man doesn't necessarily need his semen to go inside the girl's vagina yet still enjoy the "thrusting" while using a protection. Why are teenagers advised to use condom while having sex? Because they are unaware (or careless) about the consequences of having sex the "natural way". So they are advised to use an artificial object to prevent themselves from becoming teenage parents.
I really hope you never ask a girl to do anal or to give you a blow job because you clearly think those acts are unnatural, and it would be incredibly hypocritical of you if you were saying they were unnatural when same sex couples do them but fine when you do them.
I never said I don't do it because I think they are unnatural. Man itself has created it's own way against nature since it discovered fire.
Just asking, if a man uses a sex doll to please himself, would you call it sex? because sex covers a whole range of things?
When a man or a girl masturbates, would you call it sex because it's NATURAL?
Giving you a simple example to simplify this SEX thing you are confused about.
Take food for example. Do you know what food is? By definition food is "Any substance that can be metabolized by an animal to give energy and build tissue" or "Any solid substance (as opposed to liquid) that is used as a source of nourishment".
Food's purpose is to give energy to body and to make our immune system stronger. But if food's purpose is that simple, then why do we need so many cuisines? Why so many dishes? Cavemen could eat raw fruits and meat!! Why are there trillions of methods of cooking and preparing a item? Because of "Taste". Which has no relation to the body's nutritional requirement. yet we cook everything and garnish them with so many things that makes it appetizing.
The same way goes for SEX. It is garnished by foreplay acts, blow jobs, anal thrusting and all those things you can include here. But the real purpose of sex is to reproduce which includes male and female genitalia. For men/women reproduction isn't a necessity but the satisfaction of sexual anxiety is (Because man is so clever to avoid nature's rules in all aspects).
The only difference between food and sex is while food still provides nutrition to our body fulfilling it's "REAL" purpose even after cooked and garnished, sex doesn't necessarily fulfill it's real purpose with the mixture of foreplay acts or the "other" things you repeatedly and proudly call natural.
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theoncastillo566 — 9 years ago(December 15, 2016 06:42 PM)
He actually does speak the truth and in their have even been studies and rules in male/female relationship in the animal kingdom which support this.
- A woman will only get with a man if she can derive benefits. If no benefits can be obtain then NO association will take place.
- All benefits a woman has received from a man in the past does not at all weigh or affect her being with you in the future.
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bpollen — 10 years ago(December 13, 2015 09:07 PM)
That's what I was thinking, too. He disregards the cruelty and the sex programming and the making of women machines as nothing more than sex objects and machines, using them for housekeeping and sex and fun and observation..and he thinks the female robot is the evil one.
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Lady_Elaine_Fairchild — 10 years ago(December 22, 2015 05:05 AM)
I think if someone is having bad experiences with all women then the problem is in the mirror. Women are all wildly different(as are men) and no two ladies are going to react the same to any given experience.
The reason she had the power in this movie was because she had his search history. She could predict his behavior. Oh and he couldn't lie to her.
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Frantastic_Miss_Fox — 10 years ago(December 22, 2015 06:15 AM)
I think if someone is having bad experiences with all women then the problem is in the mirror.
I completely agree! I hoped the sarcasm came across in my response. If someone is always having bad experiences with potential girlfriends/boyfriends then the problem lies with the common factor, them. I don't think people like that realise how ridiculous, petty, and sad they come off when they keep blaming an entire gender for things that go wrong in their life and never try to take any responsibility. If every single woman (or man) has left you then surely you must be able to look and see something that you may have done to cause at least some of them. -
CoastalCruiser — 10 years ago(January 28, 2016 09:23 PM)
Those two dudes you're talking to they have issues.
Anyway. I love thinking about Nathan and Ava's character (not characters
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). I see neither as sociopaths or psychopaths. Although Nathan is highly unlikable to me. If either of them are out of line with the "opposite sex" however it's Nathan. Somehow mistreating machines, even if it turns out they can't feel, since they are in human form, it's a mark against Nathan's character. Of course Nathan could respond back by saying that AI (the goal), does not portend feelings (bots feel pain), and that his fembots give him a harmless, halodeck-like release for his frustrations.
I did not feel that Ava was out of line with Nathan. I pointed out my reasoning in another thread, so will just summarize Ava did not kill Nathan until he forced her to. She did not attack him when he first appeared at the end of the hall. She asked if he would let her out again if she complied with his order to return to her room. Only when she determined he was lying (micro expressions) did she cut in plan B with Kyoko and attack. Just as most humans would if they were locked in a cage. You would kill your captor if it was the only chance for freedom. Right?
Locking Caleb in the room though. Uggh. This is the only scene in the movie I haven't come up with a theory for (not that any of my theories are correct). Some where else someone suggested it may have been symbolic; like the genie is out of the bottle.
Oh. I'm a dude.