Film's subtle racism and stereotypes.
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Lizard51867 — 18 years ago(February 18, 2008 01:48 PM)
Just because you disagree with someone or believe them to be wrong doesn't make them a dumbass. And no, I didn't take a poll. Quite simply, black people don't fit the target audience that the record company and MTV try to reach with Radiohead. I didn't say that there has never been a black person who has ever listened to and enjoyed Radiohead. I said they don't fit the major demographic of Radiohead enthusiasts, which is true.
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nbbrix — 18 years ago(February 23, 2008 12:43 PM)
OP Xcard: Maybe or maybe not a dumbass, but a few coins short of the right change for sure.
It's a frackin' movie - get a life FFS.
You're probably the sort of person who would claim that the Death Star would only rotate like it does if it were controled by a Unix based opperating system which you noted, they didn't seem to have.
Mmm Xcard, Tell you what, why don't you pop down to some project housing areas in the 5 disricts, round up 100 African American males between the ages of 17 - 23 and get back to us with the results of a simple survey: How many of them & how much did they pay, for 'In Rainbows' -
sharkykt — 18 years ago(February 25, 2008 04:09 PM)
Oh my freaking g*d.
Would it have made you, those screaming racism, would it had made you all happy if every single bloody person, ALL OF THEM, all those in the crime scenes as well if they were all white? Yeah that would be realistic wouldn't it in the most multicultural city in the world.
Everyone is always screaming racism this racism that, no one is ever stinking happy has to blame something else.
As for the black people and Radiohead, well then Howard's character Mercer is a racist cop because with Katt's character is running down the list of names on the iPod, Mercer makes a comment about Wu-Tang Clan. So what is he a racist too for basically saying black guys only listen to Wu-Tang Clan.
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a-j-smith — 17 years ago(April 16, 2008 08:44 AM)
It also called 'cross cultural communictions' too. All races have different cultures including music and thats a fact. Of course there are exceptions to sterotypes, but I would think that black cultures do not listen to Radiohead, and a good detective would notice this piece of evidence, of course its not hard evidence, but a good lead to start the investigation
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Timescrew — 15 years ago(March 25, 2011 02:52 AM)
Its a rock band. They are English, I believe.
They are probably most famous for their song "creep" but they have some other really good songs too.
Ever hear of Me and This Army?
They are a rap group, and the like Radiohead too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnIM3U47pVc
Although I wouldn't classify them as Emo I can say that Radiohead isn't necessarily for everyone.
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dalldorfw — 15 years ago(December 16, 2010 10:44 PM)
"It would be one thing if they showed her transform into a true monster, an emotionless, soulless killer who did so methodically and with a sense of purpose."
You might like 'Ms.45' It's a classic I tell ya.' -
Shenanyginz — 17 years ago(August 24, 2008 07:44 PM)
Janarky, I have to agree with you 100%
I will say however, the only thing stereotypical about the subway scene was the way the black men were dressed Black men in NEW YORK dont dress that way. But you can't tell me that if you were being robbed on a subway that its far fetched for the robbers to be black and for them NOT to listen to Radio Head
I'm Black (Nigerian like the black lady living in Erica's building)I liked this movie and the only thing I cringed at that I thought was maybe slightly stereotypical was the way the men on the subway were dressed Thats how New Yorkers dressed in like 2000/1999.
Another thing about the Subway scene that occurred to me. There was a clear distinction between good and bad within the black race There were the gang bangers who were black (and trust me they exists in New York) and then there the was black father who was courageous enough to tell those knuckle heads to leave the poor kid alone
I wouldn't say this movie was racist. But I do believe it represented NY colors very well. I mean black cops and lawyers, middle eastern/asian doctors, good white people, stupid white people, woman vigilantes,italian pawn shop owners, interracial relationships. I mean this is New York's diversity
Yes I'm from NY
RIP Heath Ledger (1979-2008)
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tmontyb — 18 years ago(February 10, 2008 02:31 PM)
I've lived in the East Village all my life and although, NYC is the safest big city in the US, I don't think characters portrayed were stereotypical at all. In fact, if they weren't portrayed they way they were, I would have thought it unrealistic. Of course, everyone is not the same. Most NY'ers are great folks, but there is bad element here too like everywhere else and the movie wanted to show the bad element. I'm not sure what the OP was expecting.
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ndatmo-1 — 18 years ago(February 10, 2008 02:54 PM)
I actually thought they did a fairly decent job of presenting an even-handed variety of ethnicities in both positive and negative lights.
Black detective/Black thugs/Black attorney/Black helpful concerned neighbor/Black prostitute.
White murderers and abusers/White victims/White witness/White cops and detectives.
Asian crime victim/Asian black market gun seller.
The same with Hispanic characters, medical personnel, bystanders, etc.
As tmontyb said, I'm not sure what the OP was expecting, either. And movies have pretty much always utilized stereotypes and broadly-drawn characters to get an idea across in a short amount of time.
I would agree if all of the bad/good lined up consistently along strictly racial lines, but I think they took some care to 'mix it up' in this case. And as a small point, the white middle-aged blonde blue-eyed professional woman was not a heroic figure at allshe was a psychologically ruined killer who was out of control and suicidal.