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L0GAN5 — 13 years ago(October 14, 2012 04:02 PM)
I'd go with Apollo, he was the finished article as far as boxing goes. Rocky was never in his class as a fighter: in the first film he doesn't take Rocky seriously and pays the price for it; in the second he means business and gives Rocky the hiding of his life, and Rocky only wins by taking him by surprise by turning southpaw. He won using a dirty tactic.
After that, the next best is probably Dixon, he's paid his dues and the only reason Rocky doesn't get pasted is because Dixon injures his hand.
After that you have Clubber. Rocky underestimated Clubber in their first tie, but ultimately Clubber could dish it out but couldn't take it.
Then you have Tommy. Tommy was still paying his dues and Rocky knew his weaknesses.
Drago comes in last. Basically he beat a has-been and an ageing champion. He wouldn't have gone the distance with peak Apollo, or even Dixon. He could hit hard but he was basically a top-level amateur, kind of like the level Rocky was at going into his fights with Creed. Tactically he was naive, and wouldn't have lasted long against a tactically sound and fast fighter. -
eyebrowmorroco — 13 years ago(March 30, 2013 10:46 PM)
Apollo was the best? I dont know somehow I dont see the best - in his absolute prime - getting taken to the stretch by a bum boxer with no big-time fight experience. The best would have clinically dispatched him. Thats a huge blemish, and should by default restrict him to nothing more than #2 in the series. The same boxer, several years past his best, shouldn't lose his life in the ring to a man without technique. Drago was crap. The guy was a poleaxe. And Dixon and Gunn are street punks, they dont figure.
The best IMO was Clubber. He had the power of a Drago with the cavalier style of a Creed. Lets not forget, by the time Rocky faced him, he had accumulated some big fight experience. Its a different proposition to face a guy from relative obscurity to facing a guy who is the world champ and has beaten about ten guys to retain, even if they are subpar. His process is that of a seasoned fighter, his physical training, his mental preparation. Clubber not only faced him, he defeated him soundly. -
Huskie_Jon — 12 years ago(July 19, 2013 08:45 AM)
In his prime, Apollo Creed - The Master of Disaster, won the title and held on to it vs. the best competition of the day. These were real contenders, not a bunch of patsies, like Mick was setting Rocky up with.
He knocked out 47 opponents. Noone else in the Rocky series, not even Rocky, came close to accomplishing that. All of Rocky's other opponents were flashes in the pan. Rocky not only knocked Clubber Lang out in the rematch, he knocked out the rest of Clubber's short career. That's why you never heard from Clubber again. The same with Rocky's other opponents. Just flashes in the pan.
The problem was that Creed was already past his prime in the first Rocky movie, he just did not know it, or he refused to accept it. In his prime, there is no way a clumsy unknown amature from Philly takes him the distance. Then he lost to Rocky in a rematch. Washed up! Somone should have told him, "Give it up, Apollo! Your best days are behind you. Retire, before you really get hurt."
If Drago had fought Creed when Creed was in his prime, Apollo would have danced circles around him, or rope-a-doped him for fifteen rounds, until Drago stumbled over himself.
Judging Apollo Creed by only looking at his performances against Rocky and Drago would be like evaluating Muhammad Ali by only looking at his fights against Trevor Berbick and Larry Holmes. I suppose there could be a Rocky 0 movie about the rise of Apollo Creed, but it could get boring just watching him win all the time. Viewers prefer the underdog
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bigpapapumpct — 12 years ago(November 03, 2013 02:44 PM)
Any way you want to cut it, no one gave Rocky a beating like Drago. Drago was the toughest fight for sure. And for those who brush it off as steroids. steroids don't make you good. The way Drago manhandled Rocky was proof that he was a beast with or without steroids. The roids only made him physically stronger.
As far as him being the toughest Rocky was at his peak both physically and mentally in Rocky IV. He had accumulated a vast wealth of knowledge from both Mick and Apollo by that point. He knew everything there was to know. But even then, Drago still massacred him for most of the fight.
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jaystarstar — 12 years ago(December 13, 2013 04:45 PM)
Rocky's fight plan against Drago was dumb he didn't use any of the speed, moves or quickness he gained in the grueling training sessions with Apollo in RIII instead he basically just stood there and let Drago pound him in the head.
Before fighting Rocky, Drago had only fought amateur fights (3 rounds max) and of course the Apollo fight was over in 2 rounds.
Against Drago, Rocky should have run like a jackrabbit for about 7 rounds to get Drago leg-tired. Then start pulling the rope-a-dope, guarding your head, and let Drago punch himself out against your stomach and arms.- You ever seen Superman $#$# his pants? Case closed.
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Optimus_Prime_is_OP — 12 years ago(December 15, 2013 12:50 PM)
I would say Apollo. He was the only one (other than Dixon) who has an actual real tactic. Apollo was basically Ali. The other boxers just hit and hit. They had no real tactic at all.
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melco92 — 12 years ago(February 22, 2014 09:44 PM)
Apollo. The first fight was brutal and he made it all the way through. And he probably would have won the second fight if it wasn't for the knockout.
Clubber didn't last long. Drago was on steroids so in my mind he's disqualified. Tommy didn't have the experience. Dixon was almost beat by a 60 year old guy.
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eddsixpi — 11 years ago(October 11, 2014 11:17 PM)
1: Apollo
2: Clubber
3: Drago
4: Tommy
5: Dixon
Apollo was the best all around and most skilled boxer. He could beat anyone of those guys. The second toughest I'd say is Clubber. I think he's tougher than Drago because when Rocky beat him, he had to do it by actually blocking and tiring him out. When Rocky fought Drago, he just stood there taking all of Drago's best shots. Tommy had potential but he chose to stop training with Rocky. And Dixon was taken to his limit by a 59/60 year old man. -
A-zone — 9 years ago(June 08, 2016 10:17 PM)
It is arguable as to who was the best. Probably Drago for his sheer superhuman strength. But then Clubber Lang was pretty strong too. And Apollo was strong and fast. So it really is tough to declare the best among them.
However, I can unequivocally say that the WORST was Dixon. Worst character and worst actor! I don't know why Stallone thought it was a good idea to get a real boxer to play the role of Dixon. It's not like they were going to have a real fight. An actor can box, but a boxer can't act. And Tarver can't act to save his life!
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