Predictable - Soft + Weak - Romper Stomper
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Flanged — 15 years ago(March 08, 2011 12:51 PM)
You can watch both films. It's easy. Only have to sit there with your eyes open.
And that is exactly what you did. I hope everybody else will do the exact same. Both these films are good, both are very enjoyable, and both should be seen. No point telling people to go watch one over another.
TIE had more life in it, though. Soft, weak, predictable, whatever you want to call it, but very real - far more true to most people's experiences. Funny as well.
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Flanged — 14 years ago(June 02, 2011 11:02 AM)
Yeah, that was weird, I don't think it was a film that needed a "romance" in it at all. I think Smell was supposed to be a bit simple, though. Since a lot of it is based on the director's own experiences, maybe he'd seen a relationship like that in real life?
Or maybe the actor playing Shaun was a little Hollywood-style tyrant - "I won't do this movie unless I get to suck her tits! Speak to my agent!" lol
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amsyco13 — 14 years ago(August 01, 2011 02:25 PM)
As soon as Combo asked Milky for the weed, I expected/waited for him to crack and beat the beep out of him
Congratulations.you predicted something in this movie was going to happen mere minutes before it did. You must be clairvoyant or something.
Are you a bug Bill Murray?
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Robbmonster — 13 years ago(November 06, 2012 11:01 AM)
My first 'serious' relationship was almost exactly the same as the one between Shaun and Smell.
I was 13, the girl was 16 and about 14 inches taller than I was, to say nothing of the fact she was rather well-developed whereas I looked about 8 years old.
No doubt it was pretty weird (I'm not ashamed to admit that), but sometimes it happens. Attraction is a funny thing.
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sjrmanc — 10 years ago(September 22, 2015 06:39 AM)
When I was 13 I was 5'10 and 18 stone. Shaun just small for his age, smell is big for her age, Taller than other girls and is younger than them. Concidering girls mature faster at that age, most relationships in schools had height gaps if girls older.
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BlackGas — 14 years ago(February 07, 2012 07:41 PM)
"i saw romper stomper. it's a good flick but it has nothing on this is england. i was an american skinhead and i could easily relate to this is england. romper stomper was just an excuse for street fighting action stuffnot that it's an unworthy film. romper stompers characters are very one dimensional as well. "
Yeah.
I'm a skin and I've lived alot of this too, and I've never been to UK.
Funny, all the posts on other "skin" films by people who don't know anything but beep they've seen on talk shows and Gangland, pontificating about skinheads, and this is the closest to accurate flic out there and no one is here spouting their theories except to call it "soft."
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Those scenes in the beginning especially, like when the kid gets his first sherman, or when they smash up that abandoned house, were just great. My experiences here in the US were pretty similar. But we were alot meaner to freshcuts! -
MisterWhiplash — 14 years ago(February 22, 2012 09:28 PM)
I didn't really have a problem with those plot points, they were effective and, for the former, disturbing (even if the throwing-the-flag-into-the-water is a little melodramatic). What my problem was that it just ended right there. It felt like the movie wasn't really over, that there was some resolution to it, or what maybe Woody would come back or something, that maybe Shaun would go with them again. I really liked the film a lot, and even understood how broken a man Combo was. It's just that it didn't feel like an ending to me, or one that was proper.
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samueljbrownjohn — 14 years ago(March 26, 2012 08:04 AM)
I really do not think you can compare this movie to romper stomper.
Romper Stomper is about a mindless group of neo nazi thugs. Yes they are rebelling against the influx of immigration in Australia but it seems to be more for the pure hatred of immigrants and lust for violence rather than they have a national grudge over jobs or anything. This Is England is a much more potent film in terms of its themes and the way it depicts Britain and british culture in the 1980s.
I do agree to some extent that the ending was cliched but the imagery of Sean throwing the st georges flag into the sea accompanied by that beautiful cover of an 'please please please let me get what i want' made for a great finale. I think it was a great way to end the film, however i would have liked more resolve on the combo/milky situation. However This is England 86 and 88 have made great dramas on tv as well. if you havent seen them i greatly advise it. -
nostripedzebra21 — 13 years ago(August 18, 2012 08:57 PM)
I would not agree with you. It could've ended in a various different manners but the way it did end was perfect. The symmetry with the character's crisis of things so stupid being able to separate such good friends. The independent part of the film was vouching against the war and at the same time showing it was not alright to be on the polar end (and how many where just confused at this end). For the ending of the movie not knowing what happened and leaving it up to you to decided, I think is the best way to end a piece a literature or a film letting the audience decide with there own imagination instead of just being mildy entertained with instant gratification of everyone being happy and giddy at the end.
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louis_cypherr — 12 years ago(July 24, 2013 02:08 AM)
personally i dont see what anyones problem is with this film, or romper stomper.
i own both, think both are classics in their own right, & over the years have watched both at least once a year, being a big fan of skinhead related films. there are other skinhead related films out there e.g. pariah, the believer, 16 years of alcohol, that are still worth a watch, but nowhere near as good. my top 3 would be this is england, romper stomper & made in britain. this is england being my favourite, excellent actors/actresses, brilliant director(check out dead mans shoes & a room for romeo brass if you havnt already seen them),awesome soundtrack,awesome storyline,awesome build up of the characters,awesome climax, awesome follow ups in '86 & '88 etc. i cant fault it. i know its obviously down to personal taste so its not for everyone, i wouldnt recommend it to me mother,shes more a mamma mia kind of woman,but it seems like people try to find faults with it. just enjoy it for what it is, a good solid honest realistic movie. -
sjrmanc — 10 years ago(September 22, 2015 06:41 AM)
I don't concider this is England to be a movie on race, was just one aspect of life in 80's. American history and romper were pure neo Nazi's and hardcore race movies. This wasn't, so comparing them is hard
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matthew-male — 12 years ago(January 24, 2014 07:10 AM)
You're a fool if you think this was just another skinhead film like Romper Stomper. Did you get confused because they all had shaved heads? Romper Stomper was about racism and the charisma of a flawed leader and the relationship with his followers, it was never about Australian identity. It's focus was Hando. This is England is a rite of passage story and about the war for Shaun's soul (and England's soul) and it's focus was a young boy and the future of England after the nationalism of the Falkland War. Oh and I was there in the 80s and I know what it was like to live through that time. I think you need to think a little more when watching films and not get caught up on the minor details.
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sjrmanc — 10 years ago(September 22, 2015 06:43 AM)
totally agree, people are putting this movie into a race movie and it isn't, its just a movie about a young boy growing up in 80's and race was a small part of it. Woody, milky gadget are not racist or neo Nazi's atall, skinheads like they were, were just what the poor young lads dressed like, movie ended with race being involved but was never intended for it to be a race movie.
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sjrmanc — 10 years ago(September 22, 2015 06:36 AM)
Romper stomper were neo Nazi skin heads. In this is England, the group of friends wernt full blown skin heads, The film isn't supposed to be about race, its supposed to be a realistic view of life in 80's. And as for that, I thought very accurate and powerful.