That teacher deserved what he got.
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koffeenkreame41-1 — 15 years ago(October 18, 2010 11:06 AM)
His teacher was a prick, I would've clocked him too. Yeah, Kale wasn't prepared, most teachers talk to them after class or something like that. He even told Kale "I don't know who you think you are messing with" The teacher was being inapproriate, much like the officer who was related to him. He enjoyed cuffing Kale just because Kale hit the teacher. I guess he got what he deserved too. I'm seeing a strange pattern here, Ronnie didn't listen when Kale told him to come upstairs, he got beened with a baseball bat, his mom got her face rammed into the wall and was tied up in the basement.
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I love hutch — 3 years ago(June 12, 2022 05:04 AM)
I actually do kind of think that the mother was kind of a cold bitch when she acted that way. I know she was not a bad person and they obviously loved each other. It's the way she said it that rubbed me the wrong way. I don't know if this was the movie being manipulative or not.
I like this movie a lot. But for whatever reason, I don't like the way most of the people treat him. The only other character I really like besides Kale is his Korean friend. And, ironically (?), I kind of like the serial killer, but that is only because I really like David Morse.
And even though "Rear Window" was clearly directed by a master filmmaker, I prefer "Disturbia" if only because I really like Shia Le Bouf and I thoroughly dislike Jimmy Stewart.
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novastar_6 — 15 years ago(February 01, 2011 10:27 AM)
And what, Kale doesn't have an attitude?
And please don't give me that whole 'he's feeling guilty about his father's death' line, millions of people have dead parents and they don't go around punching out people's lights who expect them to do their job. -
Zaphenzo — 15 years ago(February 07, 2011 02:17 PM)
It's not like the teacher was like "You should've done your homework," and then Kale punched him out. That would've been completely different. When you talk to a student like he did and basically antagonize him about his father that died in an accident when he was driving, that's definitely just plain wrong, and he deserved to get decked.
And your other post about his mother is also a ridiculous analogy that makes no sense. Your mom saying "Do the laundry and take the trash out" and your teacher saying "What would your (dead) father think about this" are two things that are so ridiculously unrelated that they are nowhere near being comparable situations. -
Zaphenzo — 15 years ago(February 07, 2011 09:37 PM)
It doesn't matter what is and isn't a crime. That's not what we're talking about here. We're saying that the teacher was out of line for saying what he said to Kale, and we think he got what he deserved when Kale punched him. I don't see anything about laws there.
And do you also think that Kale shouldn't have killed the dude with the hedge-clippers? Personally, the dude killed a bunch of people, I think he deserved it. But what Kale did was illegal. Killing, even in self defense, is considered by law to be unnecessary force. -
Mudvayne6182 — 14 years ago(June 16, 2011 01:33 PM)
Killing, even in self defense, is considered by law to be unnecessary force.
No, it's not. If your life is in immediate danger due to another person, you have every right (legally and ethically) to defend yourself. Even if that means ending the other persons life. The tricky part is "immediate danger" meaning, they better be trying to murder you. -
novastar_6 — 14 years ago(June 18, 2011 10:27 AM)
Exactly, whereas there is no threat of any kind for a teacher to get on your case because you're not doing the work and 'what would your father think?' is in no way grounds for criminal assault and battery, did he think the judge would say 'oh he insulted you so it's okay to pound his face in'?
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novastar_6 — 15 years ago(February 08, 2011 07:32 AM)
So did his corrupt cop cousin for that matter. he harrased Kale for no real reason. i cheered When Turner broke his neck.
True, I think everybody was HOPING that cop would die. But his manner was as professional as a broom closet psychiatrist, did the teacher make a public example of Kale in front of the entire student body like the sadist teacher in Pink Floyd's The Wall? No, he didn't, if memory serves, what was said was only between the two of them, it's not like he was parading the fact up and down the classroom that Kale had a dead father, like my sister's teacher paraded in front of the entire classroom that my sister had DIVORCED PARENTS (back when it was very unpopular) so not to make fun of her for having DIVORCED PARENTS even though she was about the only child in the school who had DIVORCED PARENTS. If the teacher had done something like that I'd say hell yeah, knock his head off, but he didn't. -
garrettok31 — 14 years ago(June 24, 2011 05:09 PM)
I think the real issue here is that 80% of teachers are bitter pricks who take apathy in class as a personal insult to their integrity. Who gives a flying cow patty whether some twerp did their homework? Flunk his ass, let his guidance counselor deal with him if he doesn't care. Forcing him to care by berating him is only going to make him push back.
EDIT: Not to mention that it's not like his dad got an illness and then passed on, or he came home from school one day and his mom said his dad was in a car accident. He witnessed his father's death, and it seemed like it was probably pretty graphic, with the tires rolling over his face and everything. Basically the teacher was bringing up the most traumatic experience of Kale's life at that point, something the teacher probably in now way could possibly relate to. -
novastar_6 — 14 years ago(June 25, 2011 09:01 PM)
Well if Kale was so traumatized, why was he even in school and not living in a padded cell? If you can't cope with every day life, why go to school in the first place if you have no intention of doing any of the work for a whole year?
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bluepolkadotsxo — 14 years ago(July 31, 2011 05:10 PM)
Kale could have exercised more self-control in that situation but I agree with everyone who said that teacher was COMPLETELY out of line. I don't know if any of you have experienced losing a parent but it is one of the most painful experiences that anyone can go through- especially in Kale's circumstances- watching him die and feeling personally responsible for his death considering he was the one driving. He was probably still going through an intense grieving period and was too depressed to focus on much of anything. He didn't have his work done and then that teacher provoked him by making a comment about his father. It's not like the teacher simply said "you should have your work done" or even that whole "you don't know who you're dealing with" thing that was almost threatening and completely unprofessional.
The teacher got right up in his face in front of the entire class and humiliated him and then made a presumptuous comment about his father.
Also, I'm pretty sure the teacher was completely aware that his father was dead because he said "What WOULD your father think?" Not "What does your father think about this?" I'm not saying that Kale's reaction was necessarily right or the best way to handle it but I FIRMLY believe that what the teacher did was wrong. Period. Those of you saying Kale should have his work done & everything I somewhat understand (even though I more sympathize with Kale because of what he was going through) but saying the teacher didn't do anything wrong is ridiculous. -
Dextrousleftie — 14 years ago(October 22, 2011 07:00 PM)
I was horribly depressed for almost a year after my nephew died, and I was in college at the time. if a teacher had pulled that on me, I probably would have at least gotten into his face and screamed bloody murder at him, because what he did was completely inappropriate and wrong. He was deliberately being an ass rather than just(as somebody else said) flunking the kid and perhaps calling his mom about getting him some therapy. You simply don't get over something like that right away. You just don't. It takes years sometimes for you to come out of the darkness at the end of the tunnel when you experience a severe, traumatizing loss. That teacher should not have been teaching if he treats his students like that. He is supposed to be the adult in the room, not acting like a nasty little child.
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deweynoodle — 14 years ago(November 20, 2011 09:50 PM)
Legally, no, it was not okay to punch him. But I think the question here is if the teacher DESERVED to get punched in the face for what he said, and in my opinionyes. Way outta line with what he said. He could have said "What would your mom think?" But no, he refernced his dead father. And as someone else stated, he could have talked to Kale privately after class to let him know he needed to keep up with his homework. Instead he demonstrated extreme unprofessionalism and inappropriate-ness. He deserved to get punched in the face.
Side note, I DO think that Kale acted like a brat when dealing with his mom. She was hurt too, she lost her husband. I think he should have been nicer to her.
It's just like Gandhi said, "A smile don't cost nothin', Sugar"