I'm saying it
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The Real Donna — 5 years ago(May 29, 2020 01:42 AM)
Its a legitimate question. You were complaining about how the series was ruin due to greedy studio executives who wanted to cash out in the series regardless of whether the product was worth the ticket price and entertainment value.
Well what if james Cameron did the same with the series? How would you feel if James Cameron got greedy with the series and didn't care about quality. He just wanted to use the series as his own cash cow. Did you ever think of that? And how would you feel then? Would that be okay with you? -
SpringheelJack1837 — 5 years ago(May 29, 2020 01:48 AM)
You're making up hypothetical crap for no reason.
If we clear up what you're asking me here, it's basically "So do you want James Cameron to make bad movies?"
Totally nonsense question. James Cameron has a reputation for having a very high standard when it comes to his movies - if he was to write and direct a Terminator sequel, it wouldn't be a rushed cash cow.
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The Real Donna — 5 years ago(May 29, 2020 02:04 AM)
You're making up hypothetical crap for no reason.
No I was just trying to have a friendly discussion with you.
If we clear up what you're asking me here, it's basically "So do you want James Cameron to make bad movies?"
No I wasn't. To be crystal clear though, that term
cash cow
doesnt mean that "they make a bad film". It just means making a film just to get paid. It's by the numbers, and the status quo for making movies.
Totally nonsense question. James Cameron has a reputation for having a very high standard when it comes to his movies - if he was to write and direct a Terminator sequel, it wouldn't be a rushed cash cow.
I mean he was involved in the production of Dark Fate.
Dark Fate could be considered a cash cow of the series. I'm just saying. I really enjoy the majority of James Cameron's work. When I say work, thats exactly what I mean. I think James Cameron is a genius writer and director. But he was part of the production of Terminator Dark Fate. I think hes credited as co-producer. I dont think he had any creative control but still. I think audiences wouldnt have wanted to see the movie as much if James Cameron wasnt attached to the film. -
SpringheelJack1837 — 5 years ago(May 29, 2020 02:10 AM)
Okay, all good.
Being the writer/director is the key contributing factor. Being a co-producer doesn't mean **** in terms of quality control. If he wrote and directed Dark Fate it likely would have been MUCH more impressive.
Same goes for Alita: Battle Angel. For a while he was going to write and direct it, but he stepped down so that he could work on 4 bloody sequels to Avatar
Anyway, my original point is that the Terminator franchise ends with T2 for me, because nothing after that had it's heart in the right place - it was nothing but pandering to the masses -
The Real Donna — 5 years ago(May 29, 2020 02:26 AM)
Being the writer/director is the key contributing factor. Being a co-producer doesn't mean **** in terms of quality control. If he wrote and directed Dark Fate it likely would have been MUCH more impressive.
I didn't know you knew some of that. Although the producer is who funds the cost of production. How the money is allocated is a matter I know nothing about.
I think Dark Fate would have turned out pretty much on par with how it was. I could see a lot of James Cameron style in the film except I felt the visual effects weren't as spectacular as the other films in the series and I'm including Terminator and T2 Judgement Day. You're right. Sequels are meant to pander to The masses. That's the purpose of making a sequel to a film or film series.
Avatar is different I guess because Cameron set out to make it a series, yes? Or no? I feel like the sequels were an afterthought due to the ending of the first film.
Regardless, I have no idea what Cameron is going to do with Avatar. I wonder if he will follow the standard mold of sequels or will he just unleash his creatvity the way The Warchovski's The Matrix series. -
SpringheelJack1837 — 5 years ago(June 01, 2020 04:55 AM)
I think Avatar will be different because of James Cameron directing it himself - if he's getting credited as director then he has to really work hard to maintain the standard he's set for himself. He Directed both Aliens and Terminator 2 which are 2 of the best sequels to anything, ever
Neither sequel feels like a mindless re-hash of whatever happened before it and I don't think that Avatar sequels will be any different.
The first Avatar was a really basic plot that we've seen a bunch of times, but it was executed really well and I'm pretty sure all he wanted to do with that first movie was introduce us to "Pandora" in a fun and exciting way. Good popcorn ****
Now that we're introduced to that world I'm hoping he's cooked up a more unique story. I'm just hoping it doesn't drag out and that each Avatar sequel will hold up on it's own - since we're getting 4 of that damned things