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    Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Jack Reacher


    NewCliches — 11 years ago(August 16, 2014 03:58 PM)

    So, any theories as to why the five guys planning to pulverise Reacher decided to stand to one side while their leader attacked him, and none of them had thought to arm themselves with so much as a wrench or a bat?
    Were they determined to pick a FAIR fight with him?

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      Beauq81 — 11 years ago(August 17, 2014 08:35 AM)

      It was supposed to be easy, five to one, and appear spontaneous.
      Fighting a religious war is like fighting over whose imaginary friend is better.

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        NewCliches — 11 years ago(August 18, 2014 10:30 AM)

        Someone shot his daughter a few days ago, and everyone thinks that was spontaneous:
        http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/va-officer-shoots-daughter-cr ashes-car-en-route-hospital-police-article-1.1904362
        You'd be amazed how many people have been spontaneously shot, stabbed, or beaten to death with a blunt object.

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          Beauq81 — 11 years ago(August 18, 2014 11:03 AM)

          Yeah, but what were they supposed to say when the police questioned them had they pulled it off? "See, officer, we were in the bar, having a drink and this guy insults our friend, so we took him out and beat him up with the bats and wrenches we happened to have with us."
          Fighting a religious war is like fighting over whose imaginary friend is better.

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            NewCliches — 11 years ago(September 03, 2014 10:43 AM)

            If even one of them drove to the bar, he might have a toolbox in the car.
            And dragging him outside doesn't look any more spontaneous than picking up a wrench.
            And Reacher was sure they had arranged things with the police anyway.
            And why did they all just stand there while the first guy fought him?

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              Beauq81 — 11 years ago(September 04, 2014 12:54 AM)

              You obviously missed it when he said: The toughest will attack first, when I take him down, the rest will scatter.
              Fighting a religious war is like fighting over whose imaginary friend is better.

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                CichlidAsh — 11 years ago(September 04, 2014 01:26 AM)

                In the book the assailants thought it was an easy job and they were only meant to break some bones, not cause too much damage. They wanted to put Reacher off the investigation. It is explained that although they numbered five only one would be really keen on the fight and two would be uncertain but would follow the leader, and the final two would not be keen of the encounter and would scatter once they saw the leader and maybe one or two of the others get hurt.
                Jack did go very light on these five compared to some of the fights he has throughout the books. In the books Reacher is a total beast in unarmed combat and he is 6ft 5inces and normally weights between 230-250lb
                To make a great film you need three things - the script, the script and the script -Alfred Hitchcock

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                  Beauq81 — 11 years ago(September 04, 2014 04:11 AM)

                  This fight did look interesting, but I would really like to see some of real Reacher fights - no fancy moves, pure strength. One of the images that is stuck in my head is the way he breaks necks. To me it's a more grizzly image than some slasher movies.
                  Fighting a religious war is like fighting over whose imaginary friend is better.

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                    TerraFirma69 — 11 years ago(February 04, 2015 02:20 AM)

                    Is Jack a big guy in the books?
                    then whoa, differences

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                      Beauq81 — 11 years ago(February 04, 2015 02:26 AM)

                      6'5", 250 pounds, all muscle
                      Fighting a religious war is like fighting over whose imaginary friend is better.

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                        TerraFirma69 — 11 years ago(February 04, 2015 02:30 AM)

                        Damn, big contrast to Mr. Cruise then.
                        Must have surprised (disappointed?) a few readers when they found out Tom was playing Reacher, just on that aspect alone.
                        then whoa, differences

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                          Lord-Bigglesworth — 9 years ago(September 07, 2016 10:33 AM)

                          You missed that uproar, huh? I don't even read the books but I remember hearing all sorts of whining about that.
                          You'd feel cocky too if you were full of myself.

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                            ss454327-1 — 11 years ago(April 01, 2015 05:59 AM)

                            I always imagined Ray Stevenson as Reacher

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                              eldontyrrell — 10 years ago(June 19, 2015 08:59 PM)

                              I found it odd that Reacher would quickly act in such hostile fashion to both Sandy and then the thug boys, considering how adept he is at "disappearing" and "blending in", etc. (especially if he's running around behind the scenes of a murder investigation that he may not, technically, be authorized to engage in).
                              Wouldn't a guy like that want to avoid all risk of meaningless "exposure", for instance, having the cops called in to break up / clean up after a bar fight, especially if he was essentially certain he would win?

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                                Dante88 — 10 years ago(June 29, 2015 06:07 AM)

                                LMAO!
                                In an actual fight, you could count the seconds it would take for Josh Helman to knock out Tommy Boy. Perhaps the most ridiculous fight scene ever. It's like buying into Sylvester Stallone actually kicking Steve Austin's butt. Helman drove the stolen Interceptor in Mad Max: Fury Road.

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                                  theteeto — 10 years ago(July 30, 2015 09:24 PM)

                                  He knew something was up and wanted to see where it went.

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                                    transmentalist — 10 years ago(October 07, 2015 03:40 PM)

                                    I found it odd that Reacher would quickly act in such hostile fashion to both Sandy and then the thug boys, considering how adept he is at "disappearing" and "blending in", etc. (especially if he's running around behind the scenes of a murder investigation that he may not, technically, be authorized to engage in).
                                    Wouldn't a guy like that want to avoid all risk of meaningless "exposure", for instance, having the cops called in to break up / clean up after a bar fight, especially if he was essentially certain he would win?
                                    He gave the "Jimmie Reese" name to Sandy. When she seemed confused, he realized she'd probably been expecting "Jack Reacher."
                                    That meant he was likely being set up. So he purposely aggravated the situation to see who was involved.
                                    That was how I took it, anyway.

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                                      transmentalist — 10 years ago(September 05, 2015 07:58 PM)

                                      I always imagined Ray Stevenson as Reacher
                                      That would be BADASS
                                      From the little I've read, I thought David Morse would be good (along the lines of the monomaniacal fed he played in "Bait")
                                      But Stevenson would be the best, I agree. He even struck me as almost too hardcore to play "The Punisher"

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                                          simonkevnorris — 9 years ago(July 24, 2016 02:28 PM)

                                          If not Ray Stevenson then a younger Liam Neeson. Not that Ray is a spring chicken anymore..

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