Best cameo ever?
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Socialman — 9 years ago(July 11, 2016 04:22 PM)
Not sure on the definition of 'cameo', but I always thought the specific actor had to have some relevance or other contextual ties to be considered a cameo.
A bit like Danny Glover showing up in Mel Gibson's movie 'Maverick', and the two of them having a moment of recognition. Any other actor would have been just a bit player, now it's a cameo.
Harry Dean Stanton has (to my knowledge) no context with Ruffalo or any of the others, for it to be relevant that it's HIM standing there and not anyone else.
What makes this a cameo instead of a bit part ?
Now, had he shown up in IM2, mopping a green floor over at HAMMER tech,
then
I would have considered it a cameo.
And for the record, I'd rather see HDS standing there (or anywhere) than Tom Cruise.
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preachcaleb — 9 years ago(July 12, 2016 06:12 AM)
but I always thought the specific actor had to have some relevance or other contextual ties to be considered a cameo.
Nah, that's not a necessity. An example would be Bob Barker in Happy Gilmore. Or Roman Polanski in Rush Hour 3.
What makes this a cameo instead of a bit part ?
Being recognizable makes it a cameo. As you said, it could've been played by any other actor. That's usually what separates a cameo from a bit part. Just how noticeable the actor is.
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Socialman — 9 years ago(July 13, 2016 11:01 AM)
Being recognizable makes it a cameo. As you said, it could've been played by any other actor. That's usually what separates a cameo from a bit part. Just how noticeable the actor is.
The problem with this is that wether or not it's a cameo would completely rely on the audience recognising someone.
Personally, I tend to recognise a lot of actors, even in bit parts, but that wouldn't make them cameos. And like justanicknamed said, Garret Morris showing up in Ant-Man is a real cameo, but I doubt the larger part of the audience would recognise him or even realise he was the first ever on-screen depiction of the guy that just fell onto the roof of his car.
Nice example from
this
movie is the two cops at the battle of New York. Essentially two versions of the same part, only one of them is played by Whedon alum Enver Gjokaj who later returned to the MCU in a larger part, while the other one is played by an actor I don't remember seeing anywhere before.
Your definition would make one a cameo and the other a bit part.
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preachcaleb — 9 years ago(July 13, 2016 11:14 AM)
The problem with this is that wether or not it's a cameo would completely rely on the audience recognising someone.
Not completely, but yeah, it is an important aspect of what makes a cameo. Let's use Iron Man 3 as an example:
To an American audience, Wang Xueqi and Fan Bingbing were just playing bit parts, but to a Chinese audience, they were more likely cameos.
There's also something to be said for the director's intentions as well.
Your definition would make one a cameo and the other a bit part.
Yep.
I get what you're saying, and yeah, it is a pretty grey area when it comes to determining cameo vs bit part. My only real point is that a cameo need not be related to movie or series they're appearing in.
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patdog12241982 — 9 years ago(August 14, 2016 03:17 AM)
"Are you an alien?"-HDS, AVENGERS
The inclusion of the word 'alien' in the convo implies cameo, as opposed to say more obvious cameos such as Lou Ferrigno as the guard tha Norton/Banner bribes oor 'The Courtship of Eddie's Father' being on the TV in TIH, in this day/age we could simply chalk any/all of these up to 'Easter Eggs', not getting them doesn't hurt anything, catching them adds another layer to the moment
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