Did the main character not want her baby?
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Beautifulmurdermink — 16 years ago(August 18, 2009 01:28 AM)
Hi I'm just Hannah from Norway, and I wish I paid more attention in my english classes. But the sad truth is that my grammar is bad, and probably other things to. But I still want to exspress my feelings, so please bear whit me:
First of off all, I don't think it matters if the main character wanted her baby or not. A woman who butcher animals and people is not capable to take care of a child.
Just because one so badly want to be a mother, does not make you a good and caring one. Who wants to grow up with a serial killer and one who does not take "no" for an answe, as a mom?
Second: I dosen't take a gruesome event like a car crash or a crazy woman to make a becoming mother depressed. Girls/women around the world deals whit the toughts and problems of becoming a mother, and the horrors of knowing you have to give bith, and evrything that can goe wrong.
Especialy if the pregnancy and/or birth was extra hard, mothers tend to develop the blues. Do you really blame them? And who says "La Femme" is not depressed?
And I know "La Femme" sufferd when she lost her unborn child, but you ought to be complete batsh*t insane if you think taking another womans life and unborn child, would compensate fore youre loss. To have children is not a human right. Don't forgett that!
Hannah.
Why would you exuse or pity a woman like this La Femme? She vas traumatized and was maybe insane eaven before the accident. Why is La Femme so suddelenly exsuesed? Just because she saved a unborn baby? By killing it's mother? What's so compasionate about about beeing abel to crawl over dead bodies to get what you want?
La Femme could have done so many things different than she did, but still she choosed to act like a butcher. I want to express that so many people have exsperiensed so much worse the she did, whitout going clowns**t insane.
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SpiritedAway86 — 14 years ago(May 21, 2011 06:29 PM)
Oh yeah sure, the insane woman would make a WONDERFUL mother.NOT!!!!
I don't blame Sarah for not wanting her baby or threatening to kill it because of that psycho, i'd rather do that than have that crazy ass bitch raise my kid. Plus Sarah was just really depressed because she lost her husband and was all alone to take care of the baby, it's understandable she'd feel that way. -
PoppyTransfusion — 14 years ago(June 05, 2011 12:48 PM)
Oh yeah sure, the insane woman would make a WONDERFUL mother.NOT!!!!
I don't blame Sarah for not wanting her baby or threatening to kill it because of that psycho, i'd rather do that than have that crazy ass bitch raise my kid. Plus Sarah was just really depressed because she lost her husband and was all alone to take care of the baby, it's understandable she'd feel that way.
This echoes my thoughts exactly SpiritedAway. Some people's thoughts about films and what they see are left of bizarre.
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DHfilmfan — 9 years ago(January 05, 2017 02:15 AM)
Yeah, I got the impression that she didn't want it.
Which makes sense because it raises a very moral dilemma - because Sarah didn't want the baby and would probably have made a bad mother, and La Femme wanted the child so she could love it and take care of it.
So even though we're supposed to root for Sarah coz she's the 'good guy' and hate La Femme coz she's the 'bad guy', in the bigger picture concerning the welfare of the child, La Femme would realistically be the better mother figure for it because she's the one who wants it and Sarah doesn't.
I found that really good, the way their roles were reversed.
I think this is the key aspect of the film. On the one hand, at the most reductive level, we have a home invasion genre film. But on the other, it touches something deep about the ambivalence and terror of bringing a child into this world. Consider: always the child is the protagonist, not Sarah or even La femme. We can compare the two women and debate whom would have made the better mother. But in the end, after witnessing this senseless, violent ordeal (much like life in general), could anyone protect it from the horrors it began to experience whilst even inside the womb?
Maybe the directors are pulling from the rash of criminal activity (and social unrest) against the French by immigrants, which was reported on the television news program Sarah drifted off to, and again referenced in the arrest of the Muslim youth. What's interesting, however, is that the true villain in the film is none other than a 'normal' bourgeois french woman driven mad by the loss of her child (or, perhaps more loosely, the normal course of things which she swore to uphold.) So in my mind, perhaps this film at once touches upon the fears of the liberal, suburban, French viewing public yet also pierces their self-understanding as merely civilized victims as well.
Even without this analysis/conjecture, I think it's an incredibly bracing and technically brilliant film that accomplishes what Martyrs' pseudo-metaphysical second-half never could: a brave and visceral experience that rejects convention while also managing to subtly challenge and access subconsciously the anxieties of its viewers. -
adamsmo — 16 years ago(June 02, 2009 08:59 PM)
I don't know about that. I think it was moreso she was contemplating giving up the baby so she could live and seeing if maybe she acknowledged it, the rest could have been avoidable in a way.
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sorbeck — 16 years ago(June 05, 2009 07:28 PM)
No.
That's what makes the end of the movie so amazing! Did the good guy win? It's left to interpretation whether the movie has a happy ending.
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tonyhwlee — 16 years ago(August 19, 2009 05:15 PM)
On the contrary to the comments posted, I felt she wanted her baby. When her husband died in the crash, a part of her died with him. She was left in a deep state of depression. During the initial scene of the crash, she looked over to him to check on his condition, shortly you will see in this scene she grasp her stomach with both hands to check on the baby's condition as well. She did care for the baby, but the deep depression caused her to feel little for life itself. Just as she gives her own mother a constant attitude, when she notices that her mother had died, her true emotions poured out. Its one of the first things she says to the police officer. That she killed her mom. And again, she calls out for her mother towards the last scenes of the movie as well. Her depression is the main cause for her oblivious zombie-like state, which in turn caused her to neglect those around her (her mother and her unborn baby).
As for the scene in which she holds a needle point towards her belly. It was a reaction out of desperation. She was well overpowered by la femme and in her pregnant state, was barely grasping on to life itself. She knew la femme wanted her baby so placing the needle point towards her own stomach may have well been a bit of desperation as well as trickery on her part. Perhaps it would cause la femme to back off similar to a hostage situation and buy herself time. Clearly sticking that long needle point in her own stomach would cause enough pain and perhaps blood loss to kill herself as well. As you watched how hard the main character grasped onto life through out the movie, it didn't make sense she would just suicide right there. Examples, she held onto a shard of glass cutting both hands in the process to ward off her attacker. She pokes a hole in her own throat to breath and tapes herself up to stop the bleeding etc etc. She wanted to live. Another point of view I can even accept is she would rather kill herself and the baby, rather than even attempt to fathom the crazy bitch taking her baby. lol. -
itspoop — 16 years ago(November 01, 2009 03:05 PM)
sorry, i still don't think she wanted the baby. yes, she was using the baby as a hostage when she held the knitting needle to her belly, but other times, like when she is looking at pix of her husband, it's obvious she blames/hates the child. and you didn't really offer an alternate explanation for the scene where she looks thru the hole in her knitting, and says "it's beep
if she did want to preserve the life of her baby, it was out of reflex, not any real feeling.imho. -
BuckAtwater — 15 years ago(June 25, 2010 05:53 AM)
As crazy as it sounds, I felt more compassion towards La Femme than the pregnant woman. La Femme is def. crazy and she belongs in a padded room, but that didn't make me feel for her any less and the pregnant woman more. The pregnant woman was just almost 100% unlikable. She didn't deserve anything she got, but I still liked La Femme more than the other woman as crazy as that sounds.
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les_loupe — 15 years ago(July 08, 2010 10:06 PM)
I think at the beginning of the film she both did and didn't want her baby. It seemed like she didn't care about much, it hadn't really been long since her husband died, but she was always stroking her belly like she loved it. I think maybe she was scared of what it would be like, with the baby becoming real, outside of herself. They had planned to be parents together (obviously) and facing it aloneBUT I also think that she realized, throughout the ordeal that she did want her baby to live and she did too.
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ThatGuyGus — 14 years ago(June 02, 2011 12:06 AM)
My theory is, she loved Mathew(husband) more than she did to the baby, which was selfish of her, because The baby is Mathew's last gift & she didn't even appreciate it, & she was so filled with depression that she didn't take time to think about the baby, she didn't even set up his room yet, the night before he was born, so to her the baby is just a hassle, & where Le Femme fits in, is that she was in the car wreck, & she was filled with so much anger, that she stalked Sarah the past 4 months, waiting to attack her, well she didn't want to hurt Sarah, she just wanted the baby.
Also, when Sarah was holding up a needle to her baby, she was testing Le Femme,
