She was the first one who sensed there was something very wrong out there and that they should keep inside. She was agai
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oprlvr33 — 10 years ago(October 04, 2015 05:48 PM)
Um, no. Her later 'explosion' was laughable and the same level as any religious heretic gone loony.
She agreed that something felt very wrong. But as the chaos built, her genuine seemingly caring witness and concern, turned into vile, personal attacks against anyone who dared 'mock her'. The knife she pulled, threatening to harm others, self-declaring vengeance on anyone who came close. Reminded me of
Children of the Corn
. No sane person, who claims to be Religious behaves like that. And her absurd presumption that those mutant creatures were 'signs from God's wrath' were just way over done and laughable.
Religious protestors carry around doomsday signs of "repent or go punished". But I don't think they threaten death or vengeance on anyone who shuns them or disagrees with them.
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hedkickboy — 10 years ago(October 14, 2015 04:25 PM)
Uhm she instructed people to "sacrifice" the soldier and was commanding people to take the boy and Laurie Holden so she could sacrifice them. She even wanted to kill Laurie Holden not out os some kind of "True Believer" concept, but because she had slapped her earlier in the film.
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volkstraum — 10 years ago(November 27, 2015 06:41 PM)
She was a loner and her anti-social precepts got innocent people killed at the hands of deluded people.
Everything she did was based out of her own insecurities and nothing she did was heroic.
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matthall619 — 9 years ago(September 23, 2016 10:47 AM)
So not agreeing with you is "unreasonable"?
She was responsible for causing a divide between the people and advocated murder without reason.
Were it not for her then everybody might have survived in the store but get constantly antagonistic attitude helped zero people because she just wanted to soapbox and preach nonsense to anybody that would listen rather than doing anything to improve their situation.
On top of that she was advocating cold blooded murder for no reason than her own psychopathic power trip.
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andrewpi7 — 9 years ago(September 23, 2016 10:35 PM)
Agreed. Additionally, some of BQQ's original claims about her in BQQ's 1st post were just flat out wrong and did not even happen in the movie as I pointed out.
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SkaterDave — 9 years ago(October 29, 2016 03:50 PM)
Kid,people will at one time or another disagree with something you say or do. If you're going to get your panties in a bunch every time it happens you need major therapy. There are people who think you're wrong. Big frigging deal.
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BQQ — 9 years ago(December 08, 2016 09:03 PM)
Get outta here, I know how to take things like a man or boy worth his stock; doesn't mean I'm gonna give up on something which could be an interesting hidden message or least a theory. Perhaps I should have written "some of you people", but since the last reply before my post was
Get out of here- millions have died because of religious nonsense. Every single day people are killed for a made up god
, I got a little mad. I haven't made a third analysis yet, I don't think I care enough and yes, I've changed opinion on a second or whichever analysis countless times.
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scootergirl9988 — 9 years ago(October 30, 2016 05:06 PM)
You're an arrogant cuss, aren't you?
The guy who went out to get the shotgun was heroic. The fact that he failed doesn't reduce the bravery of his effort.
The people who went to the pharmacy in an attempt to help one of their own and perhaps others were heroic. Again, their failure does nothing to reduce the courageousness of their action.
Mother Carmidy did nothing to endanger herself and so therefore cannot be considered heroic for words alone mean nothing.. All she did was give in to her own fear and her own desire to be not just important but extraordinary. If you consider that heroic then you have no clue as to what the word means.
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BQQ — 9 years ago(December 08, 2016 09:45 PM)
She died trying to protect the lives of a large number of people because of what she believed was right and what, for all intents and purposes, actually turned out to be right. I'd consider that heroic.
Movies like these are meant to be complicated, to make us ponder on things like heroism and faith, how sometimes even the nastiest people can be right. Because however Marcia's character acted and unlikeable she was, she possessed some very real virtues the heroes lacked: patience, faith, and focus on protecting the people who were already safe. She was the real interesting character as far as heroic motives are concerned, the rest you can pull out of any gung-ho action movie.
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umiryuzaki26 — 9 years ago(February 02, 2017 01:37 AM)
You may want to google "hero", I'll wait. The "heroes" in this movie were the characters who refused to give into their fears and try and help their fellow neighbours by, let's say, risking their skins to get medicine for the burned alive guy. It wouldn't have take a genious to guess they were going to be casualties, and the outcome does not change the fact going for help was the right - the heroic - thing to do.
Furthermore, MGH's character didn't want people going out not out of concern for their safety but because their precarious conditions inside the mall proved to be just what she needed to brainwashed them into buying her delusional rhetoric. She preyed on their helplessness and felt empowered by the situation. I have no doubt she was trying to mantain that state of affairs for as long as possible.
You also seem to have forgotten people leaving were doing so out of fear of being stabbed to death by her mob.