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    heisenberg12 — 9 years ago(August 10, 2016 12:33 AM)

    Good episode on first watch. Symbolic meaning/foreshadowing through it. Never understood the hate.

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      afrikasmoke — 9 years ago(August 11, 2016 10:10 AM)

      Its the lowest rated episode ever so you obviously are not alone.

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        starfang7456 — 9 years ago(August 12, 2016 04:47 PM)

        I find the episode avarage at best: nothing happens (foreshadowing is not enough)and the tone was too comical for the series' standards (it was a fun plot though, better than most today comedies), so no wonder why people detest this.
        But the second half has a nice dialogue between WW and JP, so is not to trash entirely.
        "Its Not the Idea But the Execution that Matters"

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          Thrashman88 — 9 years ago(August 17, 2016 12:58 PM)

          Agreed! Compared to other episodes, "Fly" does indeed fall short. It's not bad in anyway, it's just not AS good as the rest of the episodes in season 4. It felt more like filler or the stuff that could've gotten edited out of a major film and put as "deleted scenes" later on.

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            jubjub_13 — 9 years ago(August 21, 2016 07:38 PM)

            What does the fly symbolize? Why does Walt obsess over it so bad? Could it really ruin the batch?

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              matrixflower — 9 years ago(October 01, 2016 06:33 PM)

              Filth, contamination, corruption, everything has gone to hell -the only thing Walt can control now is his immediate environment, namely his cook.
              In his state of exhaustion he is starting to flip out as a result of all that has happened to him and all the foul things he has done - having lost sight of his initial intent, his goal. he has been swept along by illegal and morally corupt events affecting all areas of his once safe (relatively speaking) existence. In his state of tiredness the fly is interfering in his control of his only manageable task - his cook. It is now Walt vs. The Fly . at this micromanagement level. It is all he feels he has left.. of himself. of the original real Walter White. The fly is the last straw.
              Nah, most of their ingredients are filtered and cooked. What's a miniscule bit of organic waste in the size of those cooks anyway.
              He is on a delusional sleep deprived spin-out where his mind mess is magnified.
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                swolbach — 9 years ago(October 01, 2016 06:57 PM)

                What do you think about the final scene, with Walt waking up to see the fly on the flashing red lighthad a bit of a Hitchcock feel to it, IMO.

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                  matrixflower — 9 years ago(October 02, 2016 01:44 AM)

                  Last scene in Psycho.. Norman Bates thinking aloud as his mother : "They;ll see, and they'll know. Why she wouldn't even harm a fly". lol
                  I guess flys will now be symbolic to Walt.. the fly(s) in the ointment. He would have been ok if everyone had just left him alone instead of all getting in his way etc. etc. Walt's truth: He didn't mean to harm a fly or anyone at all. It was all forced on him. This is common of criminals, as in the story of 'Two gun Crowly':
                  Dale Carnegie published his book How to Win Friends and Influence People. It has remained a classic on human nature and is still popular today. One of his chapters dealt with the fact that people never blame themselves even when they are clearly wrong. One of his examples involved "Two Gun Crowley" a killer who was finally trapped by the police in his girl friends apartment in 1931. Surrounded by police Crowley carried on a gun battle with police until captured. New Yorks police commissioner said he was one of the most dangerous criminals in the history of New York who would kill "at the drop of a feather."
                  Carnegie points out, however, that while Crowley was trapped in the apartment he wrote a "to whom it may concern" letter which said in part: "Under my coat is a weary heart, but a kind one one that would do nobody any harm." A short time before this, Crowley had shot a policeman to death when he asked him for his drivers license. When Crowley was sent to Sing Sing to be executed, he said "This is what I get for defending myself." The point of the story is that "Two Gun Crowley" didnt blame himself for anything.
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                    mgreen9715 — 9 years ago(October 02, 2016 08:21 PM)

                    Isn't this question brought up about once a month?
                    Lolz, just saying.

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                      cat_fitz — 9 years ago(October 06, 2016 10:08 PM)

                      You're an idiot. And I'm not just saying that to be nice.
                      "She hasn't even read the books" - Elliot_Alderson

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