"All the lives he ruined"???
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The_Ultimate_Hippo — 9 years ago(September 21, 2016 05:30 PM)
Um exactly whose life did Walt ruin who didn't deserve it? Because if memory serves me correctly the only person who hurt innocent people was Hank.
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The_Ultimate_Hippo — 9 years ago(September 21, 2016 05:56 PM)
Andrea and Brock were Jesse's fault, he shouldn't have tried to escape
Jane was her own fault, she shouldn't have done heroin
Everyone on the plane was Jane and Donald's fault
Hank destroyed his own life when he attempted to put his own niece and nephew into the poor house
Mike, Gus and Gale were all willing participants in the meth business, they deserved what they got.
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dmcreif — 9 years ago(September 21, 2016 08:00 PM)
Again, I see no point in reasoning with you, since you act like you're some sort of mafioso tough guy. You think Walt's a saint who can do no wrong, huh?
He poisoned Brock, and he worked with the guys who killed Andrea.
Jane was her own fault, she shouldn't have done heroin
She overdosed, but Walt is responsible for her death because he didn't try to provide medical help or anything.
Everyone on the plane was Jane and Donald's fault
If Walt had saved Jane's life rather than let her die, it's likely that plane collision would never have happened.
Hank destroyed his own life when he attempted to put his own niece and nephew into the poor house
Walt destroyed Hank's life by constantly manipulating and exploiting him. Hell, Walt had a major indirect involvement in Hank being shot. Gus sent the Cousins after Hank to preserve his golden goose. Had Walt not been involved in this violent and often lethal criminal enterprise, Hank would not have been attacked by the Cousins. And had Walt not manipulated Hank earlier, Hank would've been armed and had a better chance of fighting back when he was shot. This is factually true.
Without Walt's involvement in the local illegal drug trade, Hank's employment at the DEA would not have brought the Cousins on him, or in due time the Neo-Nazis. Hank was harmed, and in fact killed, by Walt's major indirect influence. -
lief_peterson — 9 years ago(September 21, 2016 10:54 PM)
What bothers me how people act like Walt is responsible for the deaths of the people on the plane crash. Yes, obviously he inadvertently caused the chain reaction that resulted in the deaths of those people onboard. Agreed. But I dont think that makes him responsible, there's no way he could have possibly predicted the horrific outcome that not saving her life would cause.
While yes, him not stopping janes death was the cause of what would eventually be the deaths of 167 people, it was still her father who was clearly mentally unstable (deservedly so) and made those planes crash. Her father was responsible for that, not Walt. And the airlines at fault for letting a man in his state do it.
Walt may have been the cause of the chain reaction, but janes father was responsible for those deaths, imo. -
dmcreif — 9 years ago(September 22, 2016 01:34 PM)
While yes, him not stopping janes death was the cause of what would eventually be the deaths of 167 people, it was still her father who was clearly mentally unstable (deservedly so) and made those planes crash. Her father was responsible for that, not Walt. And the airlines at fault for letting a man in his state do it.
Walt is still responsible. If Jane hadn't died, her father wouldn't have been put in this emotional state in the first place. -
The_Ultimate_Hippo — 9 years ago(September 22, 2016 04:27 PM)
Jane is responsible, if she hadn't broken the law by shooting heroin then those people would still be alive. The blame falls on Jane because her slutty, junkie behavior lead to the deaths of all the people on the planes.
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The_Ultimate_Hippo — 9 years ago(September 22, 2016 04:31 PM)
That was Hank, if Hank had just let things be when he found the book then everything would have worked out perfectly for the family. Walt was out of the business, all he wanted to do was run his car wash but Hank just couldn't let that happen because he was a greedy scumbag.
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dmcreif — 9 years ago(September 22, 2016 06:20 PM)
Hank knew that Walt was involved in the events caused him to get shot and almost a paraplegic. He knew that Walt had endangered everyone in his family. He knew that Walt detonated a bomb in a nursing home. He knew Walt had mass-murdered inmates to keep them quiet. He knew that Walt had made him look a fool and screwed his career. On and on and on.
That was Hank, if Hank had just let things be when he found the book then everything would have worked out perfectly for the family. Walt was out of the business, all he wanted to do was run his car wash but Hank just couldn't let that happen because he was a greedy scumbag.
Think of the implications of what would happen if Hank protected Walt's secrets. Walt, aware that Hank is under his thumb, would be able to use him for more favors, say bailing out his criminal associates when they get arrested, or tampering with evidence or witnesses if necessary. And if other criminals like Lydia or Todd found out about this arrangement, they'd be able to use this to blackmail Hank into doing favors for them. And after Walt is gone Hank would be the one forced to watch their money laundering operation and head off any trouble that arises, a commitment for many years.
And if Walt was eventually found out, after he's gone or not, well, Skyler would have been subjected to Hank's fate, and Hank would have had it worse. There's really no upside to getting mixed up in Walt's business unless Hank wanted to go to prison too.
Oh, and "greedy scumbag"? The disrespect you think that Hank showed to Walt pales in comparison to Walt's disrespect of Hank. It's not even on the same chart. It's risible that you'd even compare them. Hank was flawed like all human beings, but whatever disrespect he showed Walt was trivial compared to what Walt did to him. -
The_Ultimate_Hippo — 9 years ago(September 24, 2016 09:00 PM)
The truth is Walt didn't hurt anyone who didn't deserve it. Hank was just bitter because Walt was more of a man than he was. Watching him get his ass owned by Jack and the Nazis was so satisfying and it meant a lot to me. F-cking pig deserved to die, painfully.
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vinnytimmler — 9 years ago(September 24, 2016 09:04 PM)
Wow seems like you missed the whole point of Breaking Bad buddy. It really is true what they say about you Hippo you are an ignorant one. Walt was a despicable character even the writer of the show hated his character by the end of the show's run.
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The_Ultimate_Hippo — 9 years ago(September 24, 2016 09:16 PM)
No, Walt is the hero, he did what was right for other people even when they didn't appreciate him. Hank was an absolute scumbag monster. He only cared about himself and was even willing to harm innocent children so he could get his promotion. I was glad that he died but I have said this for a while Uncle Jack was WAY TOO EASY on him. First of all I would have bust out a can of salt and poured the entire thing in his wound, then busted out some jumper cables and had some fun with his nipples and testicles. I'd laugh and tease him the entire time, "oh what's the matter Mr. Tough Guy? Do you feel a little sting there big boy?, awww does it hurt?", LOL. Then after he begs me to kill him I'd slice his nuts off, force him to eat them then douse him in gasoline and light him up. It would be so much fun.
"I really wish Gia and Claire had became Tanner" - Honeybeefine